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  29-Nov-19, 17:21   #1
Applying NLHE GTO to other variants and life. 0 
3pokeronly 

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I have been studying a lot lately and enjoy testing out new tactics and strategies taught with a NLHE focus on other variants, love Courchevel for instance, and a few seem to work very well.

Post your GTO tips, tricks questions or anything else.

Only off-topic here is Trump, Brexit and as per BRM's rules.

3p out

Edited by 3pokeronly (29 November 2019 @ 17:21 GMT)


     
  29-Nov-19, 22:38   #2
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pajalnick 

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Of course, if you play by the rules, then the game will probably become a bit more mechanical, but in the end it works, but I can’t play by these rules, since in my poker more emotions and my vision of playing poker prevail If you play by these rules there you need to be already a computer they are a man that for me probably is already completely uninteresting.

     
  30-Nov-19, 00:37   #3
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CALICUL 
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You play by the rules but not always, because there are certain games, where you must to change the style of play, at a time. Sometimes it works but other times it doesn't. It is important to think about what you need, to play well and ultimately count the profit, if you have.

     
  30-Nov-19, 15:47   #4
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3pokeronly 

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Posted by pajalnick:
Of course, if you play by the rules, then the game will probably become a bit more mechanical, but in the end it works, but I can�t play by these rules, since in my poker more emotions and my vision of playing poker prevail If you play by these rules there you need to be already a computer they are a man that for me probably is already completely uninteresting.


I understand the thought process, I thought mostly the same, however it is a bit more like forming a good defense in soccer to give a platform for the midfield and the attack, so when they score it is not negated by a loose defense.

The same hand say 7d7h could be a raise, a 3 bet, a fold or a 5 bet jam so the "rules" are errr a bit vague!





     
  1-Dec-19, 10:02   #5
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pajalnick 

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Posted by 3pokeronly:
Posted by pajalnick:
Of course, if you play by the rules, then the game will probably become a bit more mechanical, but in the end it works, but I can�t play by these rules, since in my poker more emotions and my vision of playing poker prevail If you play by these rules there you need to be already a computer they are a man that for me probably is already completely uninteresting.


I understand the thought process, I thought mostly the same, however it is a bit more like forming a good defense in soccer to give a platform for the midfield and the attack, so when they score it is not negated by a loose defense.

The same hand say 7d7h could be a raise, a 3 bet, a fold or a 5 bet jam so the "rules" are errr a bit vague!





I agree with this .... because it depends on the situation in this game ... for example, in a tournament you go well enough and will not take risks with this card ... And if you have a bad period you can take a chance .. .. of course, it also depends on your opponent’s game .... But of course, some people play by the rules and achieve success

     
  1-Dec-19, 11:22   #6
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3pokeronly 

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My favorite GTO technique that transfers to most variants is small blind play.

For life GTO I suppose asking the girl out, ensuring the time and place balances to expectations and then going for it.

Unlike marriage, never ask anything, as she will know all the answers and/or deny permission, just do it!
Big Smile

     
  1-Dec-19, 11:55   #7
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Serpang 
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What is GTO mean ? Sad

     
  2-Dec-19, 02:43   #8
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3pokeronly 

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Hi Serpang,

Good, first question for forum.

GTO = Game theory optimal.

It is based on some early chess and poker mathematics, since developed and tested by computer analysis, with the update of computer power pretty much every hand and millions of variations of type of play has been tested across multiple devices.

for example, in chess, GTO would suggest if your opponent opens with E4 you normally play E5 although there are a few other moves (C6, D6 etc.) that does not dramatically provide an extra advantage to your opponent, which you need to mix up, and others that you must rule out.

GTO essentially tries to remove some variance in some/certain spots where you should not be able to be taken advantage of, the downside is that it can make it harder for you also to take advantage of your opponent in the same or similar spots, creating a bit of a null and you are very happy with the null OOP.

     
  2-Dec-19, 09:03   #9
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CALICUL 
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It is very difficult to have such a good memory to retain the style of the players where you play. That is the reason for all poker gamblers to focus on strategy and skills to try to make money. You cannot become a great player if you do not consider this advice.

     
  2-Dec-19, 09:27   #10
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Skpmorita 
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i remmeber when i used to study the game
the more you study the more you win
but trust me you have to be able to control your feelings and not tilt
because if you have the knowledge but one time you will lose even though you might made every right move you should accept that and move on

     
  3-Dec-19, 03:47   #11
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3pokeronly 

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Posted by CALICUL:
It is very difficult to have such a good memory... ...focus on strategy and skills

Posted by Skpmorita:
...the more you study the more you win... control your feelings and not tilt


All great advice, GTO is only a tool that can help define ranges for both you and your strategy against an "average*" opponent. Then you must deviate depending on (in order of importance) Position, stack sizes, ICM, ability, style, VPIP, note some of these can move up or down the listing due to other circumstances as in Its Poker Baby!

*Average = of similar ability to you or average for table or average for tournament or else see IPB above.

     
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