Joined: Nov '19
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I always try to found something new and I did , found poker site Grompoker , never heard of that but found and it seems like there is also some kind of freeroll today to bankrollmobsters but didn't found any information about it? I think that site not old , anyone here know about that site more?
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I don't play with real money in new poker rooms, because there are not players at first. It takes a period of time until some customers will register. It is not necessary to make a deposit and not have it with whom to play... I can play only freerolls and if i like i will continue.
Joined: Dec '14
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I didn;t see any BRM deposit or no deposit offer for this pokerroom , it isn't also on the BRM poker reviews , I hope I am not wrong .
With new poker rooms I am always cautious , I have had problems with one in the past , I want to be carefull now . It's not about the $5, $10 , $20 deposit that I might lose , I just hate scams and lies , and losing time playing like an idiot their freerolls or games for countless hours , then try to make a small withdrawal (small reward for all the time I played ) and being treated like an idiot , jebaited , sucker . But if it is recommended I will try to see if it worths registering and playing there . A good reputation is always welcomed . If it has very few players , counted with the fingers of two or even one hand lol , this is a problem .
Also I tried registering to some pokerooms that BRM recommends and advertises , but many of them (most???) are blocking Greek players , they don't want them , I have this problem with many casinos as well , one of these new poker rooms was asking for all identity/address private papers as soon as I registered , very odd and concerning , I just registered , why are U so impatient , not that I asked for a withdrawal to ask these things , anyway the urget demand'' here and now'' or else you don't play , well if that's the case , I won't play . Especially one was asking for a picture (photograph hahahahahaaa ) of me holding my id card , the pdf and png format that I sent was not satisfying , just for laughs ...... . Also it wanted on the credit card 3month bill which I sent them to confirm my address , to show the number of my card most of which I just erased it with the paint programm for security reasons (I was bored to go to the photocopy shop to scan it while covering some digits of the card ) , although I hadn't made any deposit with it until then !!!!! Ofcourse the answer was NO . Why do you want to see all the digits/numbers of my credit card ??? In a Greek sportsbetting site they asked me for a scanned picture of the credit card in front and back , but cover some numbers on the front side (notcovering the name or exp date of course ) and the pin on the back side or else they wouldn't accept it , and they requested this after I had deposited with this card , which was absolutely right and fine by me I had no problems with them .
Please be carefull all these things when you register somewhere , with good reputation , recommended , with a lot of fish , and start with very small deposit , the minimum if possible until you see if they pay withdrawals or not , untill you see for yourself whether they are trustwortthy or not , you don't want to lose your time (or money) for nothing
Joined: Nov '19
Location: Finland
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Thanks for those warnings , that freeroll what founded yesterday as I say didn't found any information but I see name of tournament beat monday... found one tournament password at Vbet with same name and try , it works and let me play this freeroll , little bit surprise me because was login to grompoker and get password from Vbet ? That site have only few small freerolls every day and I just play those couple times without deposit. There is much players who play with any hand and hope to get bingo just like another sites also have. Few times win something small and it seems to work , about deposit/withdrawal don't know yet but hope later found answers about those also. When register they didn't ask any information , only email and that's it. Always try something new so will look this site also....
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Hi MarkWest, the answer to your doubt have a name: Google I think that you can take a look there and might find anything about that poker´s room. If you want reviews, there are too many of page that are specialized to make it of all the poker´s sites (I don´t write their names because it maybe banned for Bankroll Mob). But I follow the sames principles that dule-vu, I don´t play real money in new sites
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Yes I sometimes even open this mystery place name Google just wanted ask if someone here know something about that sites ... but understand already that it's not very popular site so keep founding something new....
Joined: Oct '16
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We advise to you for your safe.. A few of us had very bad experiences with some poker´s room that was new at this moment. I remember, with some pain, the famous DuckPoker, who disappear from one day of another, with my money and a lot of players cheated. I was a real surfer in the net, looking for new sites, hungry of free bankroll and freerolls, but some gifts are very expensive
Joined: Nov '19
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Yes thanks about warnings , when found some new sites I also every time start slowly and try to found much information about site and no make quickly deposit , this page what found I never make deposit yet but win some small money from freerolls , they have also sportbet so I try few matches and had all correct so I double those freeroll winnings and all without deposit. So slowly going up with balance and hope one day can try to withdraw something... Little bit early to dream about it but think it's possible...
Joined: Oct '16
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To make a deposit of my money in any poker´s room is my "silver bullet". Generally I make a deposit only when I need to do it for withdrawal my winnings in freerolls. I´m excessive careful bankroll manager. A part of it, was built to adjust to my country´s limitations around the exchange and the holy dollar. And the rest of it is only scare
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It's great if you can make money from freerolls and after that the poker rooms allows you to withdraw that money. I guess it's about that waager and if you did it is ok. GromPoker can be a hit for you, if they have something interesting there.
Joined: Dec '14
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In partypoker it's not a problem , it's one of the greatest pokerrooms , they treat with respect their customers , and even if there are some wagering requirements , they are the absolutely minimum and necessary , very easy to met , your rest money always ready to be withdrawn any time you want .
Well in new pokerrooms , or pokerrooms with no much traffic , if you choose to play there only for the freerolls that they offer , probably or surely you will have to wager them a lot in order to receive the freeroll money . As long as they pay you the extra money you win with this money or your preexisted deposit dollars when the withdrawal time comes , well that's fine , it's their money , so they want some of themback through rake , or to be plaed at the tables a lot to increase and generate more action . But if the rollover/wagering demands are very high/crazy , if they demand rollover even on freerolls that they are no theirs (pokeroom's freerolls) but other site's that adverises them or have a special relation with them , if you can't withdraw the rest of the money until you rollover the freerolls , even if your cashier balance is bigger than the freeroll winnings (very scammy imo) , if they ask all the time for many or different id veryfications (as if you have millions of $$ and not only $100 or $1000 , lol) , this is extremelly bad and sad ... Also if they demand the freeroll rake/rollover , even when you lost all money at the tables and your cashier balance is $0 , don't like it I have to say ...
Ofcourse if the room is great like PokerStars , they won't ask for a wagering , they give the freeroll winnings or transfered money , which is completely awesome . You have the ability to build a bankroll for free and use this money to win big , you feel very secured there when you are being treated like this . Ofcourse the pokerroom can ask for a min fee fror the withdrawal transaction of freeroll winnings or P2P transfered money ,absolutely logical . Also generally is not bad to ask some rake being generated before withdrawal , I mean they have to win sth or else no reason to exist , and then no freerolls . But you see when a room's demands are absolutely logical , easy to met and the minimum demands , and when they ask too much , almost impossible demands in rake , fees , rollover , etc The difference between bad and good pokerrooms or casinos
I have heard some extreme wagering and rollover conditions on Intertops , not only for freeroll winnings but also for bonuses they give you when you register , even when you didn't ask for them or accepted them . Very sad , exactly a perfect example of what I hate ....
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antonis321 thats why is good that big poker rooms and casino sites have freerolls and no deposit bonuses where you can use and make cashout without any problems,without deposits and you can play till you want,they dont force you to do something!thats why always is best thing to stay on this sites!
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I try to explain to you antonis321. In my experience, the requeirements to make a withdrawal are becoming more reasonables (relative). if you compare with the actual standar of an accpount´s validation. In the past, was easy to make an account validated. And we thought that the real problem was withdrawal of it. Now, the validation in any poker´s room is an obstacle race, but the withdrawal is easy. In Grey Snow, for example, they demand that you make a deposit ($10) and seat on a table and play a hand, with your money
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I consider that every player who wants to start ''a career'' in poker, he has to deposit money. Those who want to learn, to play only with virtual chips, but no freerolls with real money. To have access for all games with all currencies, you must do a small '' implant '' of 10 dollars or more for any room where you want to play.
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You love it...but I not! You know, I told it thousand of times in this years of partners, that I make a bankroll without any deposit...never! And I advise it to all the new players, to start with a good learning process (we have to respect the game) and playing freerolls to make a bankroll. It´s a good/long process where you can improbe your skills without risk
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Now grompoker site have also few freeroll satellite to bigger prize tournaments but as I say it's not very popular so it no have much players like pokerstar have in those free satellite tournaments 4000 or something around it. About that deposit , still didn't make it , just want learn and look how site work and maybe then later... Read about that deposit make for only when want withdraw some money... Usually yes sites need to deposit something if you want withdraw some money what win from freerolls. Didn't read about 888poker rules about it but few months ago when register that site I didn't make any deposit and after 2 weeks from register have few hundred $ , so I made withdraw and think it's not possible because didn't made any deposit , surprise me much because made that Sunday and next Thursday money comes without any questions. Of course when register I send all documents already what they asked. For me it takes couple of days to open that account to 888 , maybe it's same to all players , that's how it goes with me , was I just lucky or do anyone knows about that withdraw without deposit rules from any sites ??
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Some rooms , maragatero , have so strict and demanding id verification procedure nowadays , even without having made a deposit , even for 1-2 hundreds of dollars winnings/bankroll/withdrawal request , not a million of $$$ , lol . They make it so tough to play on their pokerrooms or casinos , I don't understand why they do this ......
Posted by dule-vu: antonis321 thats why is good that big poker rooms and casino sites have freerolls and no deposit bonuses where you can use and make cashout without any problems,without deposits and you can play till you want,they dont force you to do something!thats why always is best thing to stay on this sites!
I agree , these freerolls or no deposit offers are the best t way to build a bankroll for free , test the poker tables or casino games and see if you have the real opportunity to achieve some nice profits there At least for people with no overall unlimited bankroll , it's good to have this bankroll protection and help . The less rollover demands or the easier/simpier withdrawal requirements they have for bonuses or freeroll money , the better it is for the players
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Well, they (all of the poker´s room) explain to us that this requeirements are needed because our security. Certainly, its become in something common for all of them, like a legal regulation. Ithink that I readed somewhere, that the system was be used to wash black money. I don´t know if its real, but I think that might be possible, don´t you think?
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) of me holding my id card , the pdf and png format that I sent was not satisfying , just for laughs ...... .
) , although I hadn't made any deposit with it until then !!!!! 
I had no problems with them .
