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PokerStars Game #27767760247: Tournament #158090599, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2009/05/03 15:00:55 CET [2009/05/03 9:00:55 ET]
Table '158090599 104' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Booth666 (24230 in chips)
Seat 2: sopp1963 (3565 in chips)
Seat 3: 0lexi (24268 in chips)
Seat 4: denoots (10015 in chips)
Seat 5: Hades4fun (6890 in chips)
Seat 6: MyDreams35 (16265 in chips)
Seat 7: samsquanch (6845 in chips)
Seat 8: FraPer (5045 in chips)
Seat 9: _CURTIS_them (32605 in chips)
Booth666: posts the ante 25
sopp1963: posts the ante 25
0lexi: posts the ante 25
denoots: posts the ante 25
Hades4fun: posts the ante 25
MyDreams35: posts the ante 25
samsquanch: posts the ante 25
FraPer: posts the ante 25
_CURTIS_them: posts the ante 25
denoots: posts small blind 150
Hades4fun: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to _CURTIS_them [Ks Kd]
MyDreams35: folds
samsquanch: calls 300
FraPer: folds
_CURTIS_them: raises 900 to 1200
Booth666: calls 1200
sopp1963: folds
0lexi: folds
denoots is disconnected
denoots is connected
denoots: calls 1050
Hades4fun: folds
samsquanch: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ac 9s 9d]
denoots: bets 2400
_CURTIS_them said, "hahaha"
_CURTIS_them: folds
Booth666: calls 2400
*** TURN *** [Ac 9s 9d] 8 of spades
denoots: bets 1200
Booth666: calls 1200
*** RIVER *** [Ac 9s 9d 8s] King of clubs
denoots: bets 1800
Booth666: calls 1800
*** SHOW DOWN ***
denoots: shows [Tc Jc] (a pair of Nines)
Booth666: shows [3c Ah] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
_CURTIS_them said, "****ing KK"
Booth666 collected 15225 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 15225 | Rake 0
Board [Ac 9s 9d 8s Kc]
Seat 1: Booth666 showed [3c Ah] and won (15225) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 2: sopp1963 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 0lexi (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: denoots (small blind) showed [Tc Jc] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 5: Hades4fun (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: MyDreams35 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: samsquanch folded before Flop
Seat 8: FraPer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: _CURTIS_them folded on the Flop


the river was a sick card for me but thats not why i posted this hand

i get a donkbet and 1 player behind me is this and easy fold or do i have to call the first bet

Edited by this0is0me (03 May 2009 @ 14:07 GMT)


     
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Never easy to let the kings go, but you had to do it in that spot. At that level you can be sure that one of the players has an ace.

     
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mate thats a tough hand but pot odds man c'mon
2400 into about 6k pot as if u'd fold Tongue

     
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Posted by mcsnakey765:
mate thats a tough hand but pot odds man c'mon
2400 into about 6k pot as if u'd fold Tongue



haha i know it took 1 minute to fold but if somebody had an ace or 9 am I then just calling to hit my 2-outer and ifso then the potodds are not enough to do so

     
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You were absolutely right to play the hand this way. You didn't have pot odds to hit a K as there are only two in the deck. The guy who raised was clearly loose/aggressive but even if you knew this there would be no way of guaranteeing he didn't have an ace or nine and without raising all in you would be calling to the river. And then you had someone to act after you who could easily have had an ace so you had no option. Its not like you could have called the turn any easier.

     
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Never easy to fold KK or more...
maybe should you bet more preflop just to scare opponents but it's not the best way to play KK
I don't know Confused

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Never easy to fold KK or more...
maybe should you bet more preflop just to scare opponents but it's not the best way to play KK
I don't know Confused

     
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It is never easy to lose any hand against a donkey who plays any ace-rag offsuited believing he has a powerfull hand. Right bet PF and good laydown. I would have put him on an ace too, but not that kind of ace.

     
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Well played hand, too bad ace fell down on flop. However, if and oponnent donkbets with such a hand, if You had reads on him, You could raise him just to be sure he's not bluffing. But anyway, wp.

     
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I agree with everything that was already said! It is not easy having KK and let it go, but it is the right move! Donkeys and their stupid calls is common nowadays! (UNFORTUNATELY) i HATE when i have KK raise and then the ACE is on the flop! Sad

     
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Posted by shokaku:
Never easy to let the kings go, but you had to do it in that spot. At that level you can be sure that one of the players has an ace.


yep, never easy to let kings, but big money alweys gone by this way Big Smile

     
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Posted by mcsnakey765:
mate thats a tough hand but pot odds man c'mon
2400 into about 6k pot as if u'd fold Tongue

yeah its hard but when a 92 can have you licked you got to give up re group and battle on
unless your thinking he's got me pegged on a high pair and bets to test the water? its got to put down its only gonna be profitable when you can play like that. Big Smile

     
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its not an easy fold but ur probably beat so its a good laydown Smile cant be calling and hoping for K on turn or River if you know he has an A or you put him on an A Smile its better when the aces comes then when some lucky punk that called a big raise out of possition and hits a set with his small pair Angry

     
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not an easy fold, got respect for this one haha only the river is a bully!

     
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I think the raise you have made in pre-flop was lil

You did a normal rais vs an opponent 4 big blinds, you just forgot to add the blinds for each player already in game !

     
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It's correct to fold there. You are huge favor preflop, but A on the board, and bet from an opponent should make you careful. And one more thing...this is low buy-in tournament, you can expect anything from opponents.

As I said. This hand is correctly played

     
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It already happened to me twice. Once, first talking after flop, i went all in because i was a bit short stack and only one guy went with me. He had A9, like if wouldn't know.
In the second time, i was better stacked, one guy made all in with less than a quarter of my bank, and i was last man talking. The Ace on the table scared me, because it was only two weeks after it happened the first time.
In my opinion, you did well!!!

     
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WOW.

Had a similar hand yesterday on FullTilt. It was a Sit N' Learn monthly freeroll. Had KK on the button a raiser(utg+1) and a caller(the vilian), did a 3bet and both called.

Flop:
Axx 2suited (don't remember if x was a 6, 8 or 9)
utg checked and the vilian pushed, I folded same with utg. I believe he had the A, probably flopped full house with Ax. He was extremely aggressive to just call pf with AA, AK or AQ.

     
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I couldn't have fold the K's ! Shock

     
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ez fold. Plus ur drawing to 2 outs u would of hit it there but I mean it's not worth casing u'll just lose all ur money chasing 2 outers.

     
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Fold since the pot odds are not good and it is likely that at least one caller would have an ace. Obviously, this is sometimes easier said than done, but you need discipline!! Smile

     
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