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Joined: Feb '09
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You are in trouble. I would go all-in since you dont have much money left. Youre are very likely to be underdog when the cards are shown, but folding is not helping much else than you will get a few more cards. Player 3 just have to fold till you are out. Calling, hmm, maybe, but you have to move all.in regardless...
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With less than 4 BB it is a no brainer all-in. The other shorty is not even in the hand, so he can't bust. Cards are suited, so you have some potential multiway.
Joined: May '09
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All in as you have very little left to play with. Folding now would leave even less and you have got to move immediately or lose to the blinds. If you get lucky in a subsequent hand (as you undoubtedly would be hoping for when folding) you are only going to double up (at the most; you may not even achieve this) a very short stack.
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If I were you I would go all in, because your hand is suited and you can hope to make a straight too. If you fold that hand your stack will be miserable and even if you double your stack in the next hand it will continue to be very low. If you fold the only thing you could hope is that one of the other players went all in.
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You are almost dead. Not an easy decision. If it was up to you to open the pot, easy push. Since the pot is opened and got called you will have action for sure, almost no fold equity.
Bu it is a noble hand if you get busted and have some chances to survive. Better to get busted being the aggressor than to get blinded out.
Push it. Being blinded out is the most shameful way to be eliminated from a tournament and the hands you will get until it happens may not be much better. There is always a next one to play.
its an easy all in for me for so many reasons. first your small stack if you lose this blind its practically over for you, but if you triple up your have a decent shot at winning. second with it being the end game the first guy might be making a move for some free blinds. the second guy probably isnt holding a monster or he would have raised. so this would make me feel your all in has a good chance of pushing one of them off, if not both. all that being said probably the most important thing is that a call or fold is a waste of chips so its an easy decision.
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This is tricky. For me it would really depends on the situation before. Has the play been quite loose? How long have I been playing? I know your short stack but I don't think your in as bad shape as everyone is making out. The blinds are big for everyone and real good short stack strategy can save you. An all in here would put the other two on an automatic call (500 more with each of them already have 600 in) unless one of them raises. Since they both have a priority to knock you out to make the payouts they might check it down. So yes you will triple up if you hit a miracle but your chances are slim. You're most likely not going to earn a penny and have just helped out the other short stack. Even if you win you're still in third position and could go out the next hand.
If you fold you've got 800 left, 650 after the small blind and two more hands after to hit something. You may even be able to bluff a monster hand and get a free blind though you will usually get called. Still there is enough pressure on the other short stack to out play him or maybe the other will hang himself this hand.
If you call you will most likely have to go all in on the flop. But at least this may stop them from checking it down.
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Posted by shokaku: Call and give up on the flop if you miss? You are down to 500 chips then. Even a double up later will not save you.
Call is the worst option here.
Well, my first opinion was also allin, but allin or call is basicly the same here (imo) If you go allin there is no doubt player1 and 2 gonna call for sure, they both call and check you out (you cant put them off the hand with your allin, player1 raises, player2 calls his raise). So for 150 you see a free flop cos your last to act preflop. So with ur J9s you see the flop (500 chips left).
Postflop: If ur hitting ur 9 or T, or hit a flushdraw or straigth draw you have to go allin offcourse. If you dont hit, you also go allin hoping for an outer. Now your hoping player1 or 2 is gonna fold (there is no chance both gonna fold) and your HU, wot gives you more chance to win the hand. On low and midstakes many players fold even they are comitted. Many players fold if they dont connect too the board at all!
I was talking too 5 players of the pokerroom i play with this hand, 1 player plays $10 stakes, 1 plays $20 stakes and 3 play $50 and higher all with a positiv roi. 2 players say allin, 3 players say call.
Imo when ur first to act in this hand you have to push with J9s offcourse hoping player1 or 2 will fold.. In this case ur last to act, so call or push is basicly the same (100% they are NOT gonna fold if 1 raised and 2 called his raise preflop).
Joined: Feb '09
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They both have huge stacks, but the first raise might have been a raise to steal the blinds, the caller, player 2, is 100% sure to call you. the other guy just might call you. You loose half you money. Will you get a better hand the next 4-5 hands that will make you twice the money? No way. All-in.