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  29-May-09, 13:18   #1
bad beat or outplayed? 0 
daverj 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 199
im playing a 6 handed mtt. about an hr or so in and im average stack on the button with 10 10.It folds to me and i raise 2BB. the bb calls. flop comes AA10. he bets pot and i shove. he turns over AA. pretty sick flop for me, but wud u consider this a bad beat or that i just got outplayed by someone willing to call their aces pre flop

     
  29-May-09, 13:46   #2
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B1gfoot 

Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
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Posts: 6714
I think you have to be ahead pre-flop for it to be a bad beat.(or that might be on the flop)
Still sick.

     
  29-May-09, 14:01   #3
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MrMan 

Joined: Sep '08
Location: Norway
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 336
Not a bad beat, since you never were ahead.

Don't think you were outplay either. Only two hands that can beat you one the flop, A10 and AA.
So your shove is ok, I would have put BB on a A + something.

But it is a sick example of bad luck

     
  29-May-09, 14:11   #4
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Gottfriedx 
Joined: May '09
Location: Netherlands
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 360
I would have called too,

My mindread would have been

:"he probably has something like AQ and thinks I have A J or lower. call"

     
  29-May-09, 15:03   #5
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Badcall84 
Joined: May '09
Location: Poland
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 22
no way you could save your money there..
just bad luck.

     
  29-May-09, 15:05   #6
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 6692
Nice flop. It was just a cooler, and there was no real chance you could get away from your hand. Better luck in the next tourney.

     
  29-May-09, 15:36   #7
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wintwin111 
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Germany
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 11
that was just bad luck. i think no one would have folded this hand.

     
  29-May-09, 15:44   #8
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r1z0r3 

Joined: Feb '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 87
Its worse when the guy has A10, i had 1010 in late possition and 2 people had limped, i raised 6.5xbb and i get one call, and the flop brings AA10, so that i what i call a beat bet since we were playing full ring and he was under the gun with A10off :S nasty really nasty.. Aww crap!

     
  29-May-09, 15:48   #9
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 4873
I don't think if it was a bad beat or you were outplayed, i think it was just bad luck. you were never going to win that hand, good luck next time

     
  29-May-09, 16:50   #10
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awood88 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
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Yeah I agree with everyone else. Really unlucky circumstances. No escape.

But I don't like the way he played those aces. The fact he got the max chips was down to the fact you had hit the flop. I don't get how he can call preflop ie late position and then bet out in early position with the stone cold nuts (unless one of the tens was suited). He knows you don't have an ace so what he can put you on to call except a pair of tens. Even 10k is hard pressed to call with two aces. He can't make it look like a bluff or continuation bet cos he called. I'd put him on an ace with a low kicker. He's practically begging you to try and bluff him. Of course he didn't know what good shape he was in.

     
  29-May-09, 20:08   #11
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Tchungpo 

Joined: Feb '09
Location: Belgium
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 686
Kind of hand that must happen sometime... hand where yous just says :" waw, here im just fucked up..." and then laugh...

it hurt, but think that it will be you one day turning over a royal straight flush vs quad!!

     
  29-May-09, 22:24   #12
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 3851
I don't think it's a bad beat nor a bad played hand, just a no way out hand...i think everybody should do almost the same in that situation

     
  30-May-09, 01:28   #13
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Jodoli 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 469
No! Of course it is not a bad beat, but this kind of hand sometimes can be worst than a bad beat! You have a really strong hand the probability of your opponent have a bigger hand is very low!! But it happens, unfortunately. You couldnt do anything. Good luck at tables!

     
  30-May-09, 04:24   #14
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Dukbek 
Joined: Jan '09
Location: South Africa
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 8
Posted by Jodoli:
No! Of course it is not a bad beat, but this kind of hand sometimes can be worst than a bad beat! You have a really strong hand the probability of your opponent have a bigger hand is very low!! But it happens, unfortunately. You couldnt do anything. Good luck at tables!



indeed!! Disagree

     
  2-Jun-09, 13:06   #15
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alhoyo 
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 53
yea, its not a bad beat, but when I face this kind of situation for me its almost the same. And there is no hope to save your stack man... Shock

     
  2-Jun-09, 14:07   #16
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Presto 

Joined: May '09
Location: Netherlands
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 128
Whooow that's sick man!! but just bad luck... i gues

     
  2-Jun-09, 15:39   #17
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Pyhimys 
Joined: Dec '08
Location: Finland
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 1
Cooler^^

     
  5-Jun-09, 09:55   #18
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HyggloBurro 
Joined: Aug '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 31
I agree with awood88: unlucky hand, and the other player actually played it really bad. With AA you want to get money in the pot before the flop, so at least he should have doubled your raise.

And the post-flop bet is just ridiculous! You would've never called or reraised hadn't you had the 10's, since he knows you don't have the aces. I guess he just thought "wow, I got a great hand, I have to bet!". So the next time you met him, you're gonna win Cool

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Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsuAoTlgdyc

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Thats the bad beat version - similar hand, but the 10:s starts as favorites.

Edited by HyggloBurro (05 June 2009 @ 18:47 GMT)


     
  6-Jun-09, 10:12   #19
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tickitmaster 
Joined: May '09
Location: Hungary
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 7
HI i am a fish or him? preflopp 88 my pos the dealer blinds 10 20 in early he call 20 i raised to 120 he called on flopp KK10 he checked i all in 1500 he call with AQ turn 2 river J i am out

     
  6-Jun-09, 10:51   #20
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xxxbchxxx 

Joined: Nov '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 2194
Posted by B1gfoot:
I think you have to be ahead pre-flop for it to be a bad beat.(or that might be on the flop)
Still sick.


yeah i agree if your behind then loose its a bad beat..

But unlucky you cant always account for those slow playing AA but if he had re-raised you woulod you have binned your pair?
if he had re-raised you would you not go all in with full house even a vunrable one?

I dont think i would have gone all in but deffo re-raise to see where you are....... its possible you could get away from it......if your very sound player....not me lol

     
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