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I was playing a Phase4 (Steps SNG) and there was a chipleader playing no skills only luck (IMO). I called him a donk in middle stage when he was just chipleader. After that he went on and on with his luck-calls and got bigger and bigger when finally 3 were left (domdy is me). Payout is, 1st and 2nd a ticket too the final phase worth $170 buyinn and 3rd a ticket too phase4 worth $55. So this is wot happened at final stage, there are more but i put just these 2 on Give your opinion please.... (I even fixed the HH on PKR for the first time in my life )
Table #18075077 - STT #11109955 Starting Hand #878055326 Start time of hand: 10 Jul 2009 22:41:56 Last Hand #878054717 Game Type: HOLD'EM Limit Type: NO LIMIT Table Type: TOURNAMENT Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS Blinds are now $200/$400 Button is at seat 7 Seat 2: domdy - $1,104 Seat 6: BADBOYO - $18,143 Seat 7: xNGUYENx - $753 Moving Button to seat 2 domdy posts ante of $50 BADBOYO posts ante of $50 xNGUYENx posts ante of $50 BADBOYO posts small blind ($200) xNGUYENx posts big blind ($400) Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [2h 9c] to domdy BADBOYO: say sorry domdy i will get u through then domdy folds xNGUYENx laughs his *** off. BADBOYO laughs his *** off. BADBOYO has requested more time BADBOYO: up2u BADBOYO is using the time bank BADBOYO has 43 seconds remaining in the time bank BADBOYO folds and shows [Kc XX] xNGUYENx doesn't show xNGUYENx wins $550 Seat 2: domdy - $1,054 Seat 6: BADBOYO - $17,893 Seat 7: xNGUYENx - $1,053 End Of Hand #878055326
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Table #18075077 - STT #11109955 Starting Hand #878057543 Start time of hand: 10 Jul 2009 22:43:29 Last Hand #878056566 Game Type: HOLD'EM Limit Type: NO LIMIT Table Type: TOURNAMENT Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS Blinds are now $300/$600 Button is at seat 6 Seat 2: domdy - $604 Seat 6: BADBOYO - $18,593 Seat 7: xNGUYENx - $803 Moving Button to seat 7 domdy posts ante of $75 BADBOYO posts ante of $75 xNGUYENx posts ante of $75 domdy posts small blind ($300) BADBOYO posts big blind ($600) Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [5s Kh] to domdy xNGUYENx folds domdy calls $529 (all-in) Returning $71 to BADBOYO uncalled domdy shows [5s Kh] BADBOYO shows [6d 3h] xNGUYENx laughs his *** off. Dealing Flop [6s 3d 6c] BADBOYO: all u have to do is say sorry for calling me a donk Dealing Turn Dealing River domdy has One Pair: 6s BADBOYO has Full House, 6s over 3s BADBOYO wins $1,283 with: Full House, 6s over 3s BADBOYO laughs his *** off. Seat 2: domdy - $0 Seat 6: BADBOYO - $19,272 Seat 7: xNGUYENx - $728 End Of Hand #878057543
Offcourse i didnt say sorry. He desperatly wanted me to loose and that happened, he folded too other shorty and puts me allin every time. I know he can do that but check wot he said in chat, its legal?? I told support and they gonna investigate this matter, but i am allmost sure they cant do anything can they?
Your thoughts please.........
Imo every well respected online pokerroom cant eccept this behaviour (i am not saying its collusion). So i did reported this issue too support and i am waiting for the outcome.
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It's not a case of colluding (third player didn't say anything) but only (maybe) unfair playing; if you'd accepted to say sorry and got helped from chipleader then third player could report your behaviour to support for colluding against him;
anyway it's not a clear decision; i can guess support only alert him not to keep similar behaviour again but not more; they cannot condamn him for his intentions
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Posted by doomdy: I was playing a Phase4 (Steps SNG) and there was a chipleader playing no skills only luck (IMO). I called him a donk in middle stage when he was just chipleader. After that he went on and on with his luck-calls and got bigger and bigger when finally 3 were left (domdy is me). Payout is, 1st and 2nd a ticket too the final phase worth $170 buyinn and 3rd a ticket too phase4 worth $55. So this is wot happened at final stage, there are more but i put just these 2 on Give your opinion please.... (I even fixed the HH on PKR for the first time in my life )
Table #18075077 - STT #11109955 Starting Hand #878055326 Start time of hand: 10 Jul 2009 22:41:56 Last Hand #878054717 Game Type: HOLD'EM Limit Type: NO LIMIT Table Type: TOURNAMENT Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS Blinds are now $200/$400 Button is at seat 7 Seat 2: domdy - $1,104 Seat 6: BADBOYO - $18,143 Seat 7: xNGUYENx - $753 Moving Button to seat 2 domdy posts ante of $50 BADBOYO posts ante of $50 xNGUYENx posts ante of $50 BADBOYO posts small blind ($200) xNGUYENx posts big blind ($400) Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [2h 9c] to domdy BADBOYO: say sorry domdy i will get u through then domdy folds xNGUYENx laughs his *** off. BADBOYO laughs his *** off. BADBOYO has requested more time BADBOYO: up2u BADBOYO is using the time bank BADBOYO has 43 seconds remaining in the time bank BADBOYO folds and shows [Kc XX] xNGUYENx doesn't show xNGUYENx wins $550 Seat 2: domdy - $1,054 Seat 6: BADBOYO - $17,893 Seat 7: xNGUYENx - $1,053 End Of Hand #878055326
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Table #18075077 - STT #11109955 Starting Hand #878057543 Start time of hand: 10 Jul 2009 22:43:29 Last Hand #878056566 Game Type: HOLD'EM Limit Type: NO LIMIT Table Type: TOURNAMENT Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS Blinds are now $300/$600 Button is at seat 6 Seat 2: domdy - $604 Seat 6: BADBOYO - $18,593 Seat 7: xNGUYENx - $803 Moving Button to seat 7 domdy posts ante of $75 BADBOYO posts ante of $75 xNGUYENx posts ante of $75 domdy posts small blind ($300) BADBOYO posts big blind ($600) Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [5s Kh] to domdy xNGUYENx folds domdy calls $529 (all-in) Returning $71 to BADBOYO uncalled domdy shows [5s Kh] BADBOYO shows [6d 3h] xNGUYENx laughs his *** off. Dealing Flop [6s 3d 6c] BADBOYO: all u have to do is say sorry for calling me a donk Dealing Turn Dealing River domdy has One Pair: 6s BADBOYO has Full House, 6s over 3s BADBOYO wins $1,283 with: Full House, 6s over 3s BADBOYO laughs his *** off. Seat 2: domdy - $0 Seat 6: BADBOYO - $19,272 Seat 7: xNGUYENx - $728 End Of Hand #878057543
Offcourse i didnt say sorry. He desperatly wanted me to loose and that happened, he folded too other shorty and puts me allin every time. I know he can do that but check wot he said in chat, its legal?? I told support and they gonna investigate this matter, but i am allmost sure they cant do anything can they?
Your thoughts please.........
Imo every well respected online pokerroom cant eccept this behaviour (i am not saying its collusion). So i did reported this issue too support and i am waiting for the outcome.
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LOL. BADBOYO owned you, shudda said sorry. He has done nothing wrong. Whats up is he gave the outher guy a free ride and not you, im sure youd say nothing if he let you win. Next time dont call the chip leader a donk.
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Posted by B1gfoot: LOL. BADBOYO owned you, shudda said sorry. He has done nothing wrong. Whats up is he gave the outher guy a free ride and not you, im sure youd say nothing if he let you win. Next time dont call the chip leader a donk.
Well, like i said there is nothing wrong when this guy gave the other one a free ride? Did i say that?
Its about the chat wots out off line imo, and i do have a case i know now cos PKR is discussing it with me, normally they dont and never will, so ill keep you guys updated....
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yeah , calling people a donk even if he is or not is in some ways looking for problems i think and you could not walk away from that table because it was sit&go and finally was it not a bad idea of this person to try to eliminate a short stack . about the chat ... don't believe support will do something about it
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What part of the chat. BADBOYO: say sorry domdy i will get u through then BADBOYO: all u have to do is say sorry for calling me a donk BADBOYO laughs his *** off. ??? if you said sory, there is no way anyone could say if he would gave you the ride. As I said he has done nothing wrong. I dont see your complaint. PKR are wasting there time, unless you 2 play alot?? PPL can say almost whatevever they want to say in chat.
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Posted by T3ddyKGB: this story made me laugh
i doubt PKR is gonna do anything about this - no collusion imo. and as chipleader with 99,9% of the tournament chips he can play any hand he like
Well, again... did i say it was collusion? Are you even reading the thread?
And yes ur right he can play his chips wotever he like true, did i argue about that one?
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Posted by T3ddyKGB: edit: quote"Things like ''Call that allin'', ''He bluffs call him'' ect are way out off line and allways report the people they do."
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Seams you dont like opinions? I did say almost, but hey.lol. This thread is hilarious. Poker is rigged. Chat should be banned. What has happend is, you tryd to wind him up by calling him a donk, now he returns the faver. He wins X2.
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Well i never said in 100 years online poker is rigged.... And PKR is a very chat ''friendly'' pokerroom as you know nothing like other pokerrooms, there are many complaints about this and they right.
I am only saying too people who say ''This isnot collusion'' ect... that i didnt say that, just read first post ''I am not saying this is collusion''
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ive never read that anywhere in the T&Cs. guess i have to read more carefully never thought.. i wouldnt mind anyways if someone saying "call him he bluffs". too lazy to report - and what for ? just to get his chat banned ? because i definalty wont get a bonus/money for reporting someone doing such things...waste of time. but if someone is annoyed by things like this..he allowed to do so i guess.
anyways your own fault, you called him a donk and he started playin with you.
edit: quote"Are you even reading the thread?"
sry not everything, had to many tears in my eyes
i didnt know about this "call him" blabla, so i EXPECTED it you report is as colllusion, why else would someoen report anything.....
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Posted by shokaku:
Posted by doomdy: And offcourse i am not saying ''sorry'' just to get ''maybe'' a final ticket? That wud make me very gay right?
How old are you?
Allways thought you play because of the money.
Wots ur point? I just had to say sorry so i maybe get a final ticket? So saying sorry wud made him put the other shorty really allin? Well i am not like that, just another opinion....
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Does PKR provide a mute button? Cant quite remember, but surly that would solve the problem. Still dont get what gets you so upset, is it the fact he has asked you to say sorry? Or the fact he gets to choose who goes to next round? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2e4NlnLr28
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