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Ilari Sahamies: "I don't have any money left"

Tags: broke, high stakes, ilari sahamies, pokerstars, tilt.
Posted on 17 May 2012 by "T".

The Finnish poker pro Ilari Sahamies ended up as the biggest winner of 2011 at PokerStars with millions of dollars won. However, this year has been a totally different story for him and now it seems like he's more or less broke. "I don't have any money left," Sahamies wrote in the poker chat the other day after losing everything he had at the table.

"I'm sick"
Ilari had a really tough start on 2012 as he lost $840,000 during the first few months. The losing streak has continued in the past few weeks and this month he's already down about $270,000. Now the question is how much longer he can continue like this before it's too late. In a chat with a Romanian poker player named "Phiserman36", Sahamies said "no money" when "Phiserman36" asked why he was playing so low stakes. Shortly after Sahamies wrote "I'm sick".

 


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28 comments for "Ilari Sahamies: "I don''t have any money left""

 noonlion17/05/2012 11:41:22 GMT
That's poker.

From what I've seen dude is crazy aggressive, maybe not the BR to cope once the variance kicked in?

I think players that are used to winning big find it difficult to jump back down levels to build the BR. It's an ego blow, pride all that stupid stuff.

He's a good player though, no doubt someone will stake him.
 P1ntar0la17/05/2012 13:02:21 GMT
Quite aggressive player indeed…
Bad account management at this level is not the answer for this situation… has to do more like his mood, or the way the person deals with a season less good.
I believe he’ll be back soon playing high stakes again…
 LimburgCwboy17/05/2012 13:59:19 GMT
When you think you're invincible (winning a lot in a previous period) you're bound to go on as you were.

PS. Please correct the following in the article (as now it looks like awful) :
- Biggest winner of 2011 <comment: as otherwise the rest ("2012, however, ....." Blink does not make sense.>
- And now it seems <comment: you wrote 'it's seems'
- Ilari had really tough start ... <comment: you wrote 'though' >
- Furthermore, some commas (,) in several sentences would really make the readability a lot better.
 Aces_Bluffer17/05/2012 14:03:49 GMT
Downswings come as Upswings do... If you have been a winner in the past, you'll find yourself playing more agressive and probably you'll think that you are invincible.

Of course, playing agressive in a downswing period won't help you to keep a BRM as it has to be...
 Fakiry17/05/2012 14:36:37 GMT
Sahamies problem lasts for a while now, we just have to make a little research about what came on the news about him during the last couple of years to reach this conclusion. I still believe that, when he says he has no money, he means he has no bankroll that allows him to continue playing the levels he used to. Assuming he is sick is a good beginning for him, and knowing now that he is playing lower stakes is also good, because that may also mean he is trying to manage the bankroll. This can only turn into a major problem if, in fact, instead of being managing his bankroll, he is actually spending the last money he has. If this is what’s happening, it’s very sad to watch this happening to someone who once was a star and that, most probably, will commit arakiri in what matters to his poker career. Hope he manages to get out of the hole, even if he doesn’t come back to play higher again. The health is more important than the wealth.
 uhhcallmi17/05/2012 15:48:56 GMT
If all is ok ,with the experience he got ,he should easely be able to find him a good staker and work from there on to get back where he was once...


if only i could find me a way to get staked,,,it would help me a lot.

still working on it ,,and yes rome is not build in 1 day ,,so ill have to be patient and work on my

stats and gameplay even more ...
 bombsapphire17/05/2012 17:07:23 GMT
He needs a loan?

of course hes a so talented player but I'm not sure hes a good player or not caz traking websites showed his results and those are not good.
 blackfese17/05/2012 18:00:53 GMT
now he should play BM freerolls.
 pochui17/05/2012 19:24:57 GMT
maybe he just has a sore foot- that's why he feels sick...lol- as far as the "no money" comment goes- i doubt this is true, even if the guy has a reputation of one who doesn't care for bankroll management a lot, i still think he has some cash left...at least when full tilt pays him back he will get back to nosebleed tables
 wolfydan18/05/2012 01:57:52 GMT
Wow what a way to go out win so much then lose it even faster he should have stoped playing at the start of the yr i dont feel sorry for him these things happen all the time and its good to see it happens to the pros to i i was him i would have left pokerstars after winning that and never come back
 doomdy18/05/2012 07:48:23 GMT
Well to be honest, this had to happen sooner or later, he has no bankrollmanagement so its kinda it happens just time tells when it happens.
I dont think he is an example for the poker industry allthough i like him at times.
Hope he can climb back.
 Fakiry18/05/2012 14:48:26 GMT
From uhhcallmi: If all is ok ,with the experience he got ,he should easely be able to find him a good staker and work from there on to get back where he was once...

From bombsapphire: He needs a loan?

That seems a pretty reasonable solution for him, but there’s a big question there:
Who would be available to lend money to a sick gambler? That money would only appear after he was cured. How long will it take till he cures himself? And how can he proof he is in fact cured?
If, till now, he only spent his own money, better that way, at least he has no debts, just hope he can get some help to solve the problem…
 daryan1118/05/2012 16:29:35 GMT
that's poker ...too bad for him.
 AA-Daelt-AA19/05/2012 23:04:35 GMT
maybe we should send him a link to suscribe here for some bonus deposit to restack him quickly Big Smile
 rv20/05/2012 11:44:16 GMT
It shouldn't come as big surprise. After all we all know what his lifestyle are: getting drunk and gambling.
Imo he doesn't have what it takes to be a pro poker player. It's only 10% talent and 90% hard work and discipline.
 jomull5721/05/2012 00:04:46 GMT
don't worry nether do i. and i don't care i still happy losing at poker i just love playing that one win a day makes me happy
 noonlion21/05/2012 07:12:34 GMT
Posted by rv:
It shouldn't come as big surprise. After all we all know what his lifestyle are: getting drunk and gambling.
Imo he doesn't have what it takes to be a pro poker player. It's only 10% talent and 90% hard work and discipline.


i don't know that much about him, but yeah I get that impression of him.

there's no sorrow there.

if you're gonna make a tonne of money and get wasted and gamble with no brm then you're destined to go broke.

 jomull5721/05/2012 18:56:21 GMT
how much did he win in his poker life i would love to play big stakes even if it wasn't my cash and i couldn't keep any winnings . dont think i would win any thing
 damosk21/05/2012 22:37:07 GMT
It must be hard to have all that money to be able to fritter it away without any great worry. What happened to Bank Roll MAnagement ? or do high rolling players forget about it?
 noonlion21/05/2012 23:09:19 GMT
Posted by damosk:
It must be hard to have all that money to be able to fritter it away without any great worry. What happened to Bank Roll MAnagement ? or do high rolling players forget about it?


there's plenty degenerate poker players that are very good.

they can't stop gambling and playing = loss after loss

no pity for them
 Cliffem21/05/2012 23:32:55 GMT
Proably no money on stars,just has 2 digg into another pot of gold,sick ofthese 'broke' storys he saat with 100k over couple tables 2 hours bk lol
 Macubaas22/05/2012 03:25:04 GMT
I think people tend to believe them because he also spends a lot on parties, cars, trips, etc...

Even on stars you need to remember that last year he was the biggest winner there Blink
 kinogomes23/05/2012 10:54:21 GMT
Iam pretty sure he have lot of money, but he must owes lots of money too. He makes a really expensive way of life too, money for him must be like rollercoast!!!!
 kruch2228/05/2012 05:52:34 GMT
Hello, I'm sure Ilari Sahamies is a world class player but unfortunately bankrol management is a fault of many player myself first .....
 uhhcallmi31/05/2012 06:04:55 GMT
i don't have money left.....on him ???

all ,money at his bank or pokeraccounts???

lol,,this guy is joking with us all....a proven winner can't go broke ,,or he must have lost his sight the other day...

if u lose half ur bankroll( i mean the big bankrolls these guys have),then its time to change plans and get back to explecit tournament poker ,away from cashtables...

at least that's my opinion...i know a very profitable player..he never ever plays cash ..online..

but more then 3.5 $ million in tourn. winnings.. as mentioned before in other thread of mine ,,

his name is uhhmee..(amy barer-canada)

a guy like ilari ,,should be at least have enough knowlegde of the game to shift from cash to tournament play when his bankroll urges him to do so...

ofcourse he knows his motives best....

Smile Smile
 kwasac31/05/2012 18:12:10 GMT
Bad side of crazy, aggresive style of poker!
 damosk31/05/2012 19:58:21 GMT
I'm gutted for him!!!!! All the pros go on at newcomers about how important bank roll management is and then you get someone like this blow it all. Maybe there is some hidden justice somewhere!
 ProBucurest102/06/2012 22:11:37 GMT
"The key in the poker is never to lose your head. If you lose it, I assure that you will lose all your chips " Proverb by William J. Florence

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