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Russian Banks Now Implement Payment Ban to Offshore Gambling Operators

Tags: Russia, Sberbank, Vladimir Putin.
Posted on 07 November 2018 by "T".

The bill signed by Vladimir Putin over a year ago is now baring its fangs, with state-owned Sberbank now coldly rejecting transactions to offshore gambling sites and ewallets.

Russia's move to make banks and payment processing companies ban online gambling payments is now in full swing as state-owned and the biggest bank in Russia Sberbank has confirmed that it will no longer allow the processing of online transactions involving blacklisted offshore gambling websites.

On October 19, Federal Law No. 244 (which concerns state regulation in the field of gambling) amendments are now rolling in action, with Sberbank stepping in and becoming the first central bank to block all payments made by plastic cards to offshore gambling operators.

According to Russian media news outlet Rambler, Sberbank issued a statement confirming its decision to restrict payment processing to unlicensed foreign gambling sites. It states, "According to Federal Law No. 244, payments by cards in favor of foreign institutions involved in the organization and conduct of gambling are prohibited. Sberbank always complies with the laws of the Russian Federation and the regulations of the regulatory authorities. At the same time, Sberbank does not limit payments using bank cards to gambling establishments in Russia."

Other banks noted to also limit such payments are VTB and Tinkoff Bank. A spokesperson for VTB said that the bank will implement all the necessary technical measures to identify whether the money transfer will go to online casinos and therefore prevent it from happening.

How does the bank investigate? To see if the foreign entity is indeed a gambling company, the bank checks the payee code assigned by the payment system. Furthermore, there will be a list made consisting of persons associated with illegal (based on Russian laws) gambling businesses. The special black list is provided by the Federal Tax Service. Although, the updated list hasn't been compiled as of yet.

Some experts say that even if the updated list is produced and the number of banks blocking transfers increase, gamblers will find other ways to bet/pay gambling sites abroad, for instance, by using cryptocurrencies or intermediaries.

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https://www.pokernews.com/news/2018/11/russian-banks-begin-enforcing-ban-on-offshore-gambling-opera-32544.htm?itm_content=pn-hp-hero-8

 


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 sohelbd7717/11/2018 21:56:11 GMT
I do not understand why Bankrollmob restrict these freeroll poker tournament, we have been playing this poker tournament regularly and this is one of the best way to practice poker games. In fact i have been learn so much thing by playing this tournament. I have sent several messages to party poker authority and at the end they said: it was not possible to play.
 pajalnick18/11/2018 13:28:05 GMT
if the Epoch for online poker is over for me it will be awful ..... for me all life on the Internet for me is associated with playing poker ..... Of course for me this is a hobby ...... But this is a hobby already has become so much a part of my life that it will be impossible to abandon it ....... if Russian laws close the last loophole, you will probably have to immigrate to neighboring Belarus
 CALICUL18/11/2018 14:59:24 GMT
Sohelbd77, you make a mistake here.
The BankrollMob freeroll games or with buy-in are for everyone.
Those who restrict these BRM games are poker rooms.
In my country were partially restricted in 2016 and total in 2017 or first months of 2018.
The reason was not said but i think these poker rooms encourage deposits.
The only solution would be BRM to speak with administrators of poker rooms and cancel these restrictions of free BRM games or BRM with buy-in. Smile
 maragatero19/11/2018 03:07:24 GMT
In everywhere the governments are trying to do something with the poker online. Almost always they try to banned or makes difficult to play with others countries like EEUU and Spain. But this is like cover the sun with your hands. The people will find a way to do what they want. The limits and the illegality only build an opportunity to the crime Sad
 Mober20/11/2018 11:42:11 GMT
I do not agree with this. From examples all over the world and experience here in greece,
if governments want to do the extra step with poker and online gambling in general,
you cant do much about it at the end. Especially when they start forcing ISP's,
to ban sites.
The only thing you can do if you are serious about it, is to find another country to move on.
Still things are not that bad for russians.
 CALICUL20/11/2018 15:02:17 GMT
Moving to a country, only to play poker is not an adequate solution.
A good and quick solution is for poker players to protest and to get the right to get in touch with those who blocked these games.
Then the best orators of these players, need to talk and to prove that these games deserve to enter into legality, to be played by Russian citizens.
 bowie198420/11/2018 20:18:59 GMT
Posted by CALICUL:
Moving to a country, only to play poker is not an adequate solution.
A good and quick solution is for poker players to protest and to get the right to get in touch with those who blocked these games.

Very hard to apply work visas anywhere on the basis that you are a poker-pro IMO. I mean I doubt the USA appreciates the fact Smile
 CALICUL22/11/2018 15:19:03 GMT
There is another comparison between Russians and Americans.
Now depending on what their laws say.
Americans play live poker in Sua and in other countries including Europe or Asia.
About the Russians do not know too much things but i know that: Igor Kurganov plays poker and is Russian.
Maybe just because he is under contract with Pokerstars. Confused
 Mober23/11/2018 11:21:28 GMT
Even if you are in the lowest bar of the poker professional player, which means,
you make your leaving out of it, when something like that happens, you just migrate.
You dont have to look for a work, in your chosen country, you just have to continue doing
what you were doing before.
And if you move for example between europe countries, you dont even have problems
with visas etc.
 CALICUL24/11/2018 15:30:10 GMT
It's not so easy to move to a foreign country.
Not all Russian poker players professionals or not can make a profit from poker.
They will have to work, to pay the house rent after they left their family and friends.
Then they will try to make money from poker.
Is very hard because there are too many poker players.
Most of them will not leave Russia to play poker.
If it was easy, all professionals from Russia would have left his native country to play poker in other countries.
 Mober25/11/2018 10:47:52 GMT
If you can make money from playing poker in one country, then you can do the same
in another country also.
The only thing that changes, and can turn this to a no viable solution, is the cost of living.
If the country you are about to move has a higher cost then it means, your expenses would,
be more thus less profit.
 CALICUL26/11/2018 15:33:04 GMT
As a professional player you can make money with the fish, but since Russia has restrictions on poker, not all players can play with success.
A few pro players they will leave the country, but the rest who want to play, what can they do? Nothing, if does not speak to do request and the right to play live poker, as i said in another comment.
 maragatero27/11/2018 01:42:20 GMT
Yes, the poker`players seems like the water, ever find the way to keep moving. And if someone it encloses us in a dam, sooner or later we blow it up! In a world with e-wallet and cripto currence, some official strategy is really unable to shut this move. it would be better if they devote themselves to fighting structural corruption
 CALICUL28/11/2018 15:34:24 GMT
You can not fight with structural corruption because you do not have guns and there are many traitors with guns.
You can fight legally and if you win, you will get the right to play live poker.
This thing must be done by the Russian players.
If they do this, they have a good chances. Smile
 pajalnick28/11/2018 20:26:35 GMT
a few days ago I made a deposit with a kiwi wallet .... it works .... that is, so far there is a loophole so that you can deposit and withdraw money from poker sites .... I don’t know how long it will last .... I would like a little .... Because if I restrict myself completely I will be just in shock
 CALICUL29/11/2018 15:35:21 GMT
You can not deposit with regular cards like as electron visa?
or the law of Russia has banned this?
If you make a mistake, you are liable to the fin?
I asked these questions and i do not know if you will answer, but i hope someone from Russia to answer how serious the situation is with the live or online poker.
 dule-vu30/11/2018 12:51:00 GMT
at least you have some option to deposit or to make cashout from this sites,but who know till when this will last,because russian goverment will find this way in future and will stop every way of deposits in foreign gambling site!but good luck till then!
 Mober30/11/2018 13:28:44 GMT
You will have to watch the whole thing closely.
You dont want to miss, the chance of getting your money back from the deposits
along with any winnings you may have.
Make sure you are not leaving too much money in any site.
Better safe than sorry Smile
 pajalnick30/11/2018 21:16:23 GMT
Posted by CALICUL:
You can not deposit with regular cards like as electron visa?
or the law of Russia has banned this?
If you make a mistake, you are liable to the fin?
I asked these questions and i do not know if you will answer, but i hope someone from Russia to answer how serious the situation is with the live or online poker.

I am answering your question .... yes exactly ..... now the banks are blocking deposits and withdrawing money to a casino or online poker .... these are the sad laws .... you have to use additional tools .... like virtual wallets .... it is still working ... I do not know how long it will last .... But of course all this is very sad .... maybe something will change in the future
 CALICUL01/12/2018 15:37:26 GMT
It's really bad what's going on and sad.
Nobody fight with Putin to change something.
I do not know what he thinks, but i hope not to start a war with Sua.
Something is happening and they are silent.
Maybe it's just the fault of the Russians gamblers, who lose more money, than they earn and the government wants to keep money in the country, for the Russia economy. Confused
 Mober01/12/2018 19:55:41 GMT
If you can still use online wallets, and you are able to play in all the sites, or at least
most of them, then the damage was not that big.
If they go this one step further, it may get uglier Smile
But again, be sure to keep an eye on all the developments.
You dont want not to be updated on the subject, if you keep money in Smile
 pajalnick01/12/2018 21:23:30 GMT
Posted by Mober:
If you can still use online wallets, and you are able to play in all the sites, or at least
most of them, then the damage was not that big.
If they go this one step further, it may get uglier Smile
But again, be sure to keep an eye on all the developments.
You dont want not to be updated on the subject, if you keep money in Smile

the problem will only arise if e-wallets oblige to share information with officials .... and there are blocking on deposits and withdrawal of funds from the casino online poker .... such a problem may arise .... it's Russia .... and banned .... very unpleasant situation Aww crap!
 CALICUL02/12/2018 15:38:31 GMT
If you had friends outside of Russia, with accounts in those poker rooms which allows the transfer of money between players, would be ideal for you.
If the laws not change in the meantime, it will be increasingly worse.
These laws are designed to destroy, instead of helping. Sad
 pajalnick02/12/2018 21:26:25 GMT
Posted by CALICUL:
If you had friends outside of Russia, with accounts in those poker rooms which allows the transfer of money between players, would be ideal for you.
If the laws not change in the meantime, it will be increasingly worse.
These laws are designed to destroy, instead of helping. Sad

there is a country near Belarus .... any casinos and any poker sites are allowed there ... maybe try to live there .... although I really love my city St. Petersburg and I don’t want to go anywhere from here .... Ok .. we live ... let's see what happens next .... maybe something will change for the better .... maybe
 CALICUL03/12/2018 15:44:12 GMT
I think Sankt Petersburg it's beautiful.
I saw your city, in hitman 2 game... Cool and through movies or the internet.
Unfortunately laws for people do not help, but for clever boys or oligarchs, the law does not apply too much.
I would like things to change in Europe and Americans, Spaniards, French, Italians, Poles, Australians, Asia, or Africa to be able to play with the rest of the world. Cool

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