Phil Hellmuth, 45, has won millions of dollars and 11 WSOP bracelets through his career so far. He was inducted into the Poker Hall of Fame back in 2007 which confirms what a successful player he is. However, in the past few years - things have not gone Phil's way at the poker table, and every time we hear about him lately - it's usually about him crying out load after a "bad beat". According to D[...] Read more » Negreanu's attack on Phil Hellmuth's way of playing poker
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Daniel is a great player and defo knows his stuff! Phil should listern to what he's being told and improve his game no end. Phil is just a poker playing mouth and always has been its just that there wasnt as many people to listern to him back then...when he won all his bracelets..lol Dan rules Phil sucks....same old same. Its hard for pro's to take advice but Phil needs all the help he can get so taking advice is the first step to helping yourself.
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Hellmuth is really kind of "old-fashioned". I think he would be able to manage that, that he knows how to play is no question at all. But he has to stop blaming other people for busting out of a tournament and be more responsible himself
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Hellmuth is just ignorant towards the way poker recently developed. He might have been good once... but since the online pokerboom, he just can't cope anymore.
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Hellmuth is a veteran if he plays old style. He must acknowledge that poker nowadays has progressed. He must not sit still,but learn to play new style Poker.
Negreanu is a very charming guy, of course, but I don't believe that he is always studying how poker is evolving ... reading books, watching tournaments, ... I think he's using a psichological strategy to sink Hellmuth down
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Phil Hellmuth is one off the biggest icons in poker, luv or hate him. 11 bracelets is unreal, if he can win a 12th one isnt important he will still allways be the man.
Anyway i understand wot Negreanu is saying, Phil made fun off himself during many hgih stakes poker, did some terrible play and also against Negreanu, allthought its great for television Hellmuth shudnt whine so much thought its part off his presence and great to watch.
Anyway, I luv Phil, i cant stop laughing with vids like: ''Honey this guy called my raise preflop with QTo'' and ''I am poker, you cant even spell poker!!!"
So in my opinion Negreanu has to look at his own game and dont have to trashtalk icons like Phil Hellmuth. I kinda hate trashtalk anyway between great poker players so this is just an example.
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Negreanus as his reason that all strategies have their wicknesses, but that, allied to what he have already won in his poker carreer, still dont give him the right to criticize Phil, which is a much more experient player than he his. So things dont run good all the time, happens to everyone...
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I think Negreanu has a point in that he, unlike Helmuth, can adjust to the game. Helmuth is still playing his really tight game, and really does not adjust to loose players calling him with crap. But then again, many pros still play this style, the thing is they just don't explode like the Brat does...so they are no news
Siince Danial and Hellmuth both played @ the Party Poker Open, and both are playing @ High Stakes Poker, Dan is very familiar with Hellmuth's style. I'd say that the advise is sound and should be acted upon. Hellmuth has been very quite since his eleventh braclet which does suggest change is in order.
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Im just wondering when did phil win his last bracelet was it not bloody ages ago like 10 year or something? im really not sure. but u do see all the pros saying the same as dan
