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  14-Jun-12, 23:40   #21
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 3361
Posted by doomdy:
Ok, here it is, posted it allready in Jovi's stake thread, i am thinking of a stake offer to help 1 person (if it turns out to be nice maybe i can do more).
I am looking for a person prevered in a poor country where average income are very low.
For example i know in many Asian countrys monthly income like $300 is very very much, with that your a king problably.
Anyway, i am helping with a startroll (between $20 and $40/$50) and coaching, all for free offcourse.
I only want a serieus player, its to give ''you'' a better life (hopefully), so feed back allways and allways (feedback to me and also to this forum).
If things turn out right and i am a good coach maybe and hopefully in 6 months we have a winning player which earns like $150/$200 a month. But only with perfect dedication offcourse.

What am i looking for?

Man/woman doesnt matter.
You must run a pokerclient without any problems so an ok computer and healthy internetconnection is a must.
I want a good bonus sideways (rakeback) so 1 hour playing poker isnt enough, i mean you must have time for it, the more hours you play the more rakeback you get (offcourse all goes to ''you'' not to me).
All is meant to be ''long run'' so patience is the key, players with tilt problems dont have to reply cos i think ''patience'' is allways nr1 at poker.
I think of minimum 4 tables multi maybe more if you can do it and still play ok.
Poker skills: You dont have to be a good player, most important is to have patience, we start with TAG on micro, i hope i can be the coach to lift your skill a little.
You dont have to be a winning player (also not straigth down Tongue), sometimes with 2/3 things to work on break even players become winning players.
Its MY rules: I have faith with your and my help it can work out but only my rules which means NEVER cash games, only play games which we decided to play, so sorry to sound harsh but i make the rules.

This sums it up a littl, if sometin cross my mind i''ll add it.
Thinking of a bonus offcourse, dont know exactly how this can be implemented but maybe you or other mobsters have an idea.
$40/$50 is a lot of money for many poor countrys so thinking of do this in $10 peaces so i dont get a hit and run player, have to be carefull right Agree

Anyway, this was my story now reply your story, background info is allways nice, so put up as many words you like, if i can give someone a better life which life is now not that good it would be a great achievement Thumbs Up



That's a hell of thing to do for someone and I hope you find a good honest individual that you can help. Not only in poker, but change their style of living to where they remember it and do the same for someone else. God Blees and Good Luck

     
  15-Jun-12, 12:16   #22
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MJR 

Joined: Jun '12
Location: Lithuania
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 16
Posted by doomdy:
Just to add some stuff, online bank is a must, best is moneybookers, easiest for me.
Also want to know what difference does it mean to your life (or family) if your a winning player lets say making $200 a month and can cash out $100 or $150 every month.

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Posted by MJR:
Hi doomdy, my English is not the best but I will try to tell something about me. My name is Martynas I'm from small country Lithuania (Europe), the average salary in my country is like you said in Asia, under 300$. I'm playing poker for almost a year now, always trying to improve, reading articles, books watching videos about poker. I have never deposit money to poker room, because I don't have money for that, only playing from free bankrolls and freerolls. You really would help me if you stake some money for me, and of course to couch me to get a better player. I can multi table 3-4 tables, I think I'm best on SnG's and MTT, I don't really like cash games, but if you would teach me I would play it.


Very nice reply only problem is your new here (2 posts) Sad

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Posted by ayaraled:
hey doom. i am from Philippines asia.Im interested in your stake offer. I am playing poker for about a 2 years now. I usually play freerolls because no money to deposit...hahaha.i have some cash already in my poker acct. but not much...I am more interested in your coaching offer.hahaha.Its for free right.I play in Party, Betfair and Yachting now a days. usually 4 to 5 hours every night sometimes 6 to 7 on fridays and saturdays...I can do multitabling...i am not a winning player yet. But i have some wins in freerolls and i use is to play micro cash game and SNG. I am still on the learning process.Can hanlde bad beats now... I understand now that aces is just 70% winning versus a random hand...anyway please contact me if im qualified for your staking... I want learn play and win in poker because its the game that i truly love... Big Smile . i want to in the long run....


Very nice Thumbs Up i put you on my list, if i have further \questions i let you know Smile

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Thinking of SNG only, MTT got to much variance, cash NO.
For example sometin like steps SNG could get you lots of cashback with not so much risk and good to learn the game, maybe combination with DoNs, its boring but DoNs are very good to learn poker.


Is there are any way you could stake me? Just try me on PokerStars 0.25$ multi table SnG's, we could talk online or I would send you my session video and you would watch it and tell me if I do something wrong. Think about it, all I want that you would test me, I need only 0.5-1$ I really want to play and more than that I want you to couch me.

     
  15-Jun-12, 12:57   #23
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oliver082298 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Philippines
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 1011
i hope you will consider me... Worship minimum salary here is $1.5 dollars a day... that's why i play long poker every day hoping for better pay.... i even play 20 hours on weekends... had 4 children, three of them toddlers... Smile
if you would consider my offer:
oliver082298= pokerstars & partypoker accounts

     
  15-Jun-12, 13:23   #24
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Racergun 
Joined: Jun '12
Location: Sweden
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 2
Hi doomdy,
Your offer of stack sounds good and i like your goal and that you want help poor people in different countries. I am living in Sweden,so you know what you will think and all of others..So is ok, check with poor countries,i agree. But if you not find then send me an e-mail maybe. So i will tell you about my situation,dont do it here on the thread.
Also i played online poker for about 10 years,check for Racergun and Pattaya 167 on Ladbrokes,Pokertime,888 for example.
It´s for real for me. And i have time.
You decide.
Take care

     
  15-Jun-12, 13:47   #25
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 4815
In Portugal, the minimum wage is $600 (less than €500) so its a bit better than in some Asian countries, but not enough to live well. But, then again, many say it’s all about management, but those who said this live with €3,000 per month (just on his behalf, not counting the husband/wife wage). This seems a very good work oportunity you’re developing and offering, and i sincerely hope you can really end helping those who go for this. As you know, now i only dedicate about 4 hours per month to the game, so i am not eligible for this. Of course that i would dedicate a lot more, and even would have a daily Schedule to play if i would go for this, i would look at it like another job, because that Money would be helping in my monthly payments. But it would have to be something very well defined so i could advice my wife that i was playing at home but with an objective: to get more Money after the end of each month (this part is very important, a couple works for the couple and the “fruits” of it, if she agrees i’m on); and if the first month wouldn’t be that good, i would give it another two months of experience, like a trainee, to see if it would be worth to keep going for it. I work from Monday to Friday from 07h00 to 16h00 so it would be possible for me to play on week days from 17h00 to 21h00 (GMT). I also work in some weekends, but only ocasionaly, so it would have to be arranged each weekend, buta t night it would always be possible, although there’s a diferente oponent at the tables during weekends, don’t know your opinion about this. We are both “known” around here, so i think you can trust there wouldn’t be any “hit and run” on my side. It's not easy to get a better job in Portugal (i tried to go for Malta, there was a very nice company asking for someone with my skills and i applied to there, but they must have chosen some other nice pro). Let me here about your opinion.

     
  15-Jun-12, 14:11   #26
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 4873
Posted by MJR:
and more than that I want you to couch me.

Shock Shock Shock

     
  15-Jun-12, 14:17   #27
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ayaraled 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 544
thats a very good offer.hahaha.winning 150 to 200SUD a month would be a great help for me. to many bills to pay.hahaha

     
  15-Jun-12, 14:38   #28
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Racergun 
Joined: Jun '12
Location: Sweden
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 2
Doomdy,
As i told you i understand your choice and do feel like helping from maybe those real poor countrys is a Yes but the situation here in Sweden is not well too. Is more hard not to have and to see,than not to see at all and not have cash. At least many have the ocean, a lot of womens who wont cost you off everything or other things. Anyway,i want to say this,my situation is not so well right now either. I dont even have a job,and is a lot of difficult right now to get here in Sweden,I´ve met a girl i cant even afford to take her out. Funny yea. Then i better be in some hot countries where you can find at least company without to have to pay your shirt off just for a dinner and some drinks like here. I dont feel sorry for myself but if you choose a second option,let me know. I play a lot tournamenst and sturggle with small bucks and sit n gos. I have 10 years of poker online behind me but of course i will listen to new ideas and what and how i can better my play.
Also as i sayd i have time since i dont have even a job right now and sturggled for one a half year. The situation is not so nice in Sweden right now as it seems,not for the avarage people anyway.

     
  15-Jun-12, 15:00   #29
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remco2504 
Joined: Dec '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 579
Little of topic reaction for Doomdy

I am in a good mood today and would also like to bury the hatchet with you

You seem to be a good mtt player and you have a very different experience online clearly
So we have different opionion 2

So next time we have a discussion lets keep it friendly ok ??

I myself have a LOT off experience online 2 so we have something in common

And we both from the Netherland ...see we are almost brothers Blink

Well gl with your staking

     
  15-Jun-12, 16:31   #30
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 6197
Posted by remco2504:
And we both from the Netherland ...see we are almost brothers Blink


No were not.

Anyway i try to keep it friendly, its just i cant ake one single rigtard serious, sorry for that Agree

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Ontopic: For now Ayaraled is he best option but have to work things out, like deposit options?
Will check later....

     
  15-Jun-12, 17:42   #31
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remco2504 
Joined: Dec '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 579
well glad your sry .. then why still offend me again ?? you cant help yourself right ?

You are 41 dude ....act your age

     
  15-Jun-12, 21:20   #32
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jovicakralj 

Joined: Nov '10
Location: Serbia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 2087
Posted by oliver082298:
i hope you will consider me... Worship minimum salary here is $1.5 dollars a day... that's why i play long poker every day hoping for better pay.... i even play 20 hours on weekends... had 4 children, three of them toddlers... Smile
if you would consider my offer:
oliver082298= pokerstars & partypoker accounts

Jesus fckn Crist! 1,5$ a day!How you live from 50$ a month? I thought I live in pure country Shock
What did you play most? What options you have for cash out and deposit? Why did you entered into 2 SNGs on Party for 7$ buy in? What games you think you play best? Where you think you make most mistakes in your game?

     
  16-Jun-12, 03:25   #33
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ayaraled 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 544
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by remco2504:
And we both from the Netherland ...see we are almost brothers Blink


No were not.

Anyway i try to keep it friendly, its just i cant ake one single rigtard serious, sorry for that Agree

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Ontopic: For now Ayaraled is he best option but have to work things out, like deposit options?
Will check later....

Thank you very much Doom for considering.Yeah thats my problem also. I dont know if click2pay is good for our country....Hope we can work it out... Thumbs Up

     
  16-Jun-12, 05:05   #34
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 6197
Posted by ayaraled:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by remco2504:
And we both from the Netherland ...see we are almost brothers Blink


No were not.

Anyway i try to keep it friendly, its just i cant ake one single rigtard serious, sorry for that Agree

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Ontopic: For now Ayaraled is he best option but have to work things out, like deposit options?
Will check later....

Thank you very much Doom for considering.Yeah thats my problem also. I dont know if click2pay is good for our country....Hope we can work it out... Thumbs Up


But for example you won $300 last night how do you cash lets say $200 out?

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Well i only do this if conditions are right, so:
1. Very good first deposit bonus.
2. Rakeback 35% or higher, aiming on 50%. Topped by me so total maybe close too 100%.
3. Online wallet, what goal does this have when you cant cashout?
4. Uber nitty bankrollmanagement, so problably start with micro games working up to $1games ect. Btw grinding $1 can make you $200 a month for sure.

Edited by doomdy (Saturday, June 16, 2012 @ 06:41 GMT)


     
  16-Jun-12, 07:04   #35
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ayaraled 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 544
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by ayaraled:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by remco2504:
And we both from the Netherland ...see we are almost brothers Blink


No were not.

Anyway i try to keep it friendly, its just i cant ake one single rigtard serious, sorry for that Agree

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Ontopic: For now Ayaraled is he best option but have to work things out, like deposit options?
Will check later....

Thank you very much Doom for considering.Yeah thats my problem also. I dont know if click2pay is good for our country....Hope we can work it out... Thumbs Up


But for example you won $300 last night how do you cash lets say $200 out?

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Well i only do this if conditions are right, so:
1. Very good first deposit bonus.
2. Rakeback 35% or higher, aiming on 50%. Topped by me so total maybe close too 100%.
3. Online wallet, what goal does this have when you cant cashout?
4. Uber nitty bankrollmanagement, so problably start with micro games working up to $1games ect. Btw grinding $1 can make you $200 a month for sure.


I think ill cash out 150 and leave 150 because if games really turn out will.can go up a level.

Your conditions are good. maybe only problem is my online wallet.Cannot use.hehehe.Since i cash out some money before....check for Fulltilt and bankwire for other sites....problem is how am going to send you the money.... Confused

     
  16-Jun-12, 09:54   #36
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 6197
Posted by ayaraled:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by ayaraled:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by remco2504:
And we both from the Netherland ...see we are almost brothers Blink


No were not.

Anyway i try to keep it friendly, its just i cant ake one single rigtard serious, sorry for that Agree

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Ontopic: For now Ayaraled is he best option but have to work things out, like deposit options?
Will check later....

Thank you very much Doom for considering.Yeah thats my problem also. I dont know if click2pay is good for our country....Hope we can work it out... Thumbs Up


But for example you won $300 last night how do you cash lets say $200 out?

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Well i only do this if conditions are right, so:
1. Very good first deposit bonus.
2. Rakeback 35% or higher, aiming on 50%. Topped by me so total maybe close too 100%.
3. Online wallet, what goal does this have when you cant cashout?
4. Uber nitty bankrollmanagement, so problably start with micro games working up to $1games ect. Btw grinding $1 can make you $200 a month for sure.


I think ill cash out 150 and leave 150 because if games really turn out will.can go up a level.

Your conditions are good. maybe only problem is my online wallet.Cannot use.hehehe.Since i cash out some money before....check for Fulltilt and bankwire for other sites....problem is how am going to send you the money.... Confused


You dont have to send me money.

I mean how do you cashout? Bankwire? What fees? I can only do this with maximum options.
So this means money pendeling between pokersites and your bankaccount with minimum fees possible.
I use Moneybookers which is free with poker pendeling between sites and they take very low costs when i make a cashout to my bank account.
You told me moneybookers isnot allowed but wot about others like neteller?

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I also gonna be very very open to this forum, so hopefully you (or somebody else) is succesfull and can be an example for others.
So i posts as much as possible, like stats scope, roi, achievements in bonus ect.
Also where you went wrong or where you did good.

     
  16-Jun-12, 13:01   #37
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ayaraled 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 544
can bankwire at bodog free of charge but i dont play there now because the freeroll are gone...and i go broke...fulltilt check is free of charge. so no worries about the cashing out. but i understand that many poker site now charge around 25USD...i made some cash out before but not much...My option is really bankwire before.....

Just open an account in Netteller and Its OK..can use for poker deposits.i tried already...hehe.but no money yet..... Big Smile. Online wallet is already OK...Doom.

By the way, About the coaching I am really interested Big Smile.I think we can really work this thing out...
now I already post some of the games i play.... i will highlights my mistakes and good decision i think. I still dont know how post a game for easy analyze by mobsters....

     
  16-Jun-12, 13:22   #38
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 6197
@ayaraled: you have twitter so we can make contact, i cant put my email on here, my twitter is doomdy.

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Posted by Fakiry:
In Portugal, the minimum wage is $600 (less than �500) so its a bit better than in some Asian countries, but not enough to live well. But, then again, many say it�s all about management, but those who said this live with �3,000 per month (just on his behalf, not counting the husband/wife wage). This seems a very good work oportunity you�re developing and offering, and i sincerely hope you can really end helping those who go for this. As you know, now i only dedicate about 4 hours per month to the game, so i am not eligible for this. Of course that i would dedicate a lot more, and even would have a daily Schedule to play if i would go for this, i would look at it like another job, because that Money would be helping in my monthly payments. But it would have to be something very well defined so i could advice my wife that i was playing at home but with an objective: to get more Money after the end of each month (this part is very important, a couple works for the couple and the �fruits� of it, if she agrees i�m on); and if the first month wouldn�t be that good, i would give it another two months of experience, like a trainee, to see if it would be worth to keep going for it. I work from Monday to Friday from 07h00 to 16h00 so it would be possible for me to play on week days from 17h00 to 21h00 (GMT). I also work in some weekends, but only ocasionaly, so it would have to be arranged each weekend, buta t night it would always be possible, although there�s a diferente oponent at the tables during weekends, don�t know your opinion about this. We are both �known� around here, so i think you can trust there wouldn�t be any �hit and run� on my side. It's not easy to get a better job in Portugal (i tried to go for Malta, there was a very nice company asking for someone with my skills and i applied to there, but they must have chosen some other nice pro). Let me here about your opinion.


Nice reply Thumbs Up

I wud never be wooried by hit and run from you, but i need someone who can make lots of hours poker to work this out, hope you understand Smile

Thanks for the reply mate Thumbs Up

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Posted by oliver082298:
i hope you will consider me... Worship minimum salary here is $1.5 dollars a day... that's why i play long poker every day hoping for better pay.... i even play 20 hours on weekends... had 4 children, three of them toddlers... Smile
if you would consider my offer:
oliver082298= pokerstars & partypoker accounts

Ok, ill put you also on my list, tell something more.

Internet connecting ok?
How about online banking?
You have work?
Poker history, wot you play?

Edited by doomdy (Saturday, June 16, 2012 @ 15:01 GMT)


     
  16-Jun-12, 17:00   #39
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oliver082298 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Philippines
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 1011
Posted by jovicakralj:
Posted by oliver082298:
i hope you will consider me... Worship minimum salary here is $1.5 dollars a day... that's why i play long poker every day hoping for better pay.... i even play 20 hours on weekends... had 4 children, three of them toddlers... Smile
if you would consider my offer:
oliver082298= pokerstars & partypoker accounts

Jesus fckn Crist! 1,5$ a day!How you live from 50$ a month? I thought I live in pure country Shock
What did you play most? What options you have for cash out and deposit? Why did you entered into 2 SNGs on Party for 7$ buy in? What games you think you play best? Where you think you make most mistakes in your game?

i play best at MTT.... bankwire transfer, visa, or master card... moneybookers too...
i won $25 from an affiliate site of partypoker and deposited it.... i won a few, so i tried to play $75 but no luck...'nt
$1.5/day here is way below poverty line... but the government could'nt address the problem, so we tend to hav multiple jobs and/or hav small time business... Sad
i play most freerolls...

     
  17-Jun-12, 05:52   #40
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ayaraled 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 544
Posted by oliver082298:
Posted by jovicakralj:
Posted by oliver082298:
i hope you will consider me... Worship minimum salary here is $1.5 dollars a day... that's why i play long poker every day hoping for better pay.... i even play 20 hours on weekends... had 4 children, three of them toddlers... Smile
if you would consider my offer:
oliver082298= pokerstars & partypoker accounts

Jesus fckn Crist! 1,5$ a day!How you live from 50$ a month? I thought I live in pure country Shock
What did you play most? What options you have for cash out and deposit? Why did you entered into 2 SNGs on Party for 7$ buy in? What games you think you play best? Where you think you make most mistakes in your game?

i play best at MTT.... bankwire transfer, visa, or master card... moneybookers too...
i won $25 from an affiliate site of partypoker and deposited it.... i won a few, so i tried to play $75 but no luck...'nt
$1.5/day here is way below poverty line... but the government could'nt address the problem, so we tend to hav multiple jobs and/or hav small time business... Sad
i play most freerolls...


Hello Oliver. Can use moneybookers in our country for onpoker deposits?can you please teach me how?because there is an error that theres restriction in our country

     
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