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I swear down I am going to feck this BR management off in a min and play on a higher stake because these chasing fish are doing my fing head in and taking my money. Its constant its a bloody joke.
[QUOTE]Posted by Phisix: I swear down I am going to feck this BR management off in a min and play on a higher stake because these chasing fish are doing my fing head in and taking my money. Its constant its a bloody joke. [/QUOTE
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Don't need one yet until I start getting stressed. Was starting to do really well then some twat called my 5x BB raise with AQ with his A8 and of course hits A8 on the flop. Another guy called with A10. Worst hand wins again. To top it off when I get great cards and hit nothing on the flop someone always min raises 1 BB and I fold always as there is always a higher card or they could have two pair of rubbish cards, its driving me insane.
funny enough that person with A8 just left the table.They always do when they luck out with shite.
On a positive note I am going to read those two things you said on the page before. Been a while since I read up on poker stuff so it could be a good thing for me.
------------ My good playing is starting to pay off finally as I nearly have all the money back I lost to these luck outs. I also have another bonus payout in 15.3 points time of £4.26 which will bring me back to what I started on tonight so I will leave the tables after that and rest until tomorrow.
------------ That is it for me for today. What a roller-coaster of a 2 hour session. I started on £34 after being down from £41 the night before and within 20 minutes I was down to £15 due to fish calling stations calling with crap or chasing and hitting unbelievable flops ect. I just finished smashing both the tables I was on and finishing with my BR back on £41.
Last hand on one table I got KK UTG and raised 4X the BB and someone raised again and someone else called(Was thinking one of them had AA as per my luck) so 3 bet them to see where I was and both called(AA would have donked all in) flop brought 5AK and someone was stupid to bet the pot before me so I 4 bet as there was a flush draw. The other person folded and the guy who first did the raised call and flipped over A10o. Who calls a re-raise and a 3-bet pre flop with A10o. :S Oh well, his tears were my game and that is me sleeping good tonight.
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I would adjust your BR management rules a little... You're saying you lost over 50% of you BR within 20minutes ...
It looks like you like playing high variance game...A lot of all-ins with overpairs and so on ... I'm not saying it's -EV , you can make nice profit if you pick the spots good. But stacking off with a slightly positive EV means high variance. And if you are using such an aggressive bankroll management losing 50% could happen again.
But then again aggressive bankroll management allows you to climb up stakes faster .. So if you are ready to step up and down the stakes frequently and that you can handle it mentally that in 20 minutes you have lost half of your bankroll, then I think there is no problem ..
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Not all ins as only had one, but they keep chasing stuff and by the time the card has come out for them the pot is big. It doesn't usually happen much but those fish were just in god mode somehow until the odds and variance came back to the real world, so many rebuys were taking its toll.
Losing a big chunk of my BR does not worry me, as one time I was down from £390 to 90 due to fish and tilt, and the next day being clear headed I made it back to £250 within two hours. Obviously that was on a higher stake and on this stake I am doing mini BR management.
Thanks.
------------ Just had a small session and just jumped from £41 to £50. I even had great odds on a straight and flush draw and actually hit one for a change. Will save myself for a bigger session for tonight.
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You seem to be doing ok mate no matter the beats.. it's a slow growing process not jumping to higher limits to try your luck but at the same time it "should" be a more constant climb, step by step. Another thing going for you is the rake that your making ( you did mention a nice rakeback reward where you play) and that should give a boost to your roll no matter how small. The plan is not to be rich fast but surely in the long run keep it up
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Posted by Phisix:
Last hand on one table I got KK UTG and raised 4X the BB and someone raised again and someone else called(Was thinking one of them had AA as per my luck) so 3 bet them to see where I was and both called(AA would have donked all in) flop brought 5AK and someone was stupid to bet the pot before me so I 4 bet as there was a flush draw. The other person folded and the guy who first did the raised call and flipped over A10o. Who calls a re-raise and a 3-bet pre flop with A10o. :S Oh well, his tears were my game and that is me sleeping good tonight.
Well this is typical play for micro s : a lot of players there always raise or call with top pair.
So at micros i love to get in the hand with low pocket pairs... statistical you hit 12 % chance you hit a set on the flop and then it becomes money time... especially when they hit top pair.
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Posted by lukasb: You seem to be doing ok mate no matter the beats.. it's a slow growing process not jumping to higher limits to try your luck but at the same time it "should" be a more constant climb, step by step. Another thing going for you is the rake that your making ( you did mention a nice rakeback reward where you play) and that should give a boost to your roll no matter how small. The plan is not to be rich fast but surely in the long run keep it up
Indeed, plus this poker site has lots of other bonus ways to make money. I have a bonus am I am slowly needing a certain amount of points each time to unlock more money. I then am also entered in two more bonus's called Endurance challenge which you have to reach a certain amount of points in a month to win some money and a bonus to unlock(the small one I mentioned above which I made for last months endurance challenge) and also there is another one I am currently in which needs something(Points maybe for more money) and finally the points I save up(Like Pokerstars VPP) can be redeemed for money every 100 points or you can save to spend in the shop.
So as well as grinding money, plus rake back twice a month I have those other ways so that is why I only play at this site now. If I was still on the 0.25/0.50NL tables I would have made so much points and reach VIP status by now I could have been making some serious money. Nevermind though as the chance will always be there.
I also realized I have $3 in my 888 account(Birthday bonus) which I need to rake a certain ammount to be able to withdraw, but that is another BR I have if I need a rest from Ladbrokes or to obviously make money from in the future.
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Posted by thefly131:
Posted by Phisix:
Last hand on one table I got KK UTG and raised 4X the BB and someone raised again and someone else called(Was thinking one of them had AA as per my luck) so 3 bet them to see where I was and both called(AA would have donked all in) flop brought 5AK and someone was stupid to bet the pot before me so I 4 bet as there was a flush draw. The other person folded and the guy who first did the raised call and flipped over A10o. Who calls a re-raise and a 3-bet pre flop with A10o. :S Oh well, his tears were my game and that is me sleeping good tonight.
Well this is typical play for micro s : a lot of players there always raise or call with top pair.
So at micros i love to get in the hand with low pocket pairs... statistical you hit 12 % chance you hit a set on the flop and then it becomes money time... especially when they hit top pair.
just check/fold as you do not get a set.
True but the first re raise was from 40p to £1 which then my 3 bet was to £2.70 so his odds of hitting a pair with that shoddy hand was slim at best so I would have not done it myself. AQ/AK I would though. I think the other guy may have had JJ/QQ which is why he folded on the flop.
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G'day mate
The site you mentioned in your post where you play poker at sounds interesting. Did you say it was call Ladbrokes? I never heard of it before and was just wondering. best of luck to you. be cool
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So far I have had an alright day playing. No losses, suckouts or fish(weird) so far. I have had a bad day with pockets pairs above JJ as they are folding every time and I have not been super raising them either. What is even more weird is on one of my tables I have had AA 5 times in 30 minutes.
It must be a school night for the fish as theres not many tonight.
------------ Make that six times now. Table is a gold mine for AA for me.
------------ Waited an hour for a decent hand on one table and finally got AK and flopped an Ace TPTK and some prick had trip 10s. Done so well tonight with no real losses and that s**te happens. Such a joke this game is some times.
------------ I swear this is fuckng rigged for idiot players and fish. Once again some Prick chases a flush and hits it. I haf KQ and flopped trips and he has 910s. I check and he bets so I call then a flush draw hits so I go all in and he calls when its a raise for all his chips and of fucking course he hits his magical river as per usual on this wind up of a rigged game. So after a good solid break even night I am now down after having an hour dry session and all this s**t happen. Suxh a fucking joke as usual I cannot just finish one night session up for once because every Tom, D**k and Harry flush chaser has to always get their magic bail out card. Fuming ain the word. If I had a kitten I wOuld throw it at an orphan.
------------ * i 3 bet him after I checked the flop and he bet not just checked. But hey he had a 9 on the flop so he had to call as usual.
------------ So in the end I could not find a Kitten so I could not throw it.
New day, no stress so I just played a small session while it was on a half time break for the Newcastle vs Villa game I was watching. First hand was AK and the two people before me limped in so I raised to take the blinds or isolate. One calls and the other folds. Flop brings nothing for me and the other guy checks so I C-bet and he goes all in. I sat there thinking he had nothing so I took the risk and called(He only had 25% of my chip count) and he flipped over A9s so I had him beat pre flop and post flop until a 9 came up on the turn.
I thought to myself here we go but I just stayed calm and waited for some good cards and spots. I ended up getting a limp flush vs another limper and took down a big pot and then I got given JJ(the hand that I always lose with) three players limped raised so I bet 6xBB and they both called. Flop brought 4JK so I hit my trips. I value betted and he called. Turn brought a a six so I bet a pot sized bet and he went all in. Knowing he did not have KK after limp raising I called and he flipped over trip 4's. Just goes to show you should never call giant pre flop raises with very low pockets.
And with that I regained all the money I lost last night. Phew. Now to play more tonight and lose again. I dont know what is wrong with me lately but I only ever seem to win when I go down from a few beats. Weird.
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Had the best day for weeks tonight as I got up to £65. Then the usual fish taking my due to unlikely cards and luck and that set off a chain reaction as I got fucked over by AA. Currently on £45. Maybe one day I will end a day of poker actually being up.
------------ Edit:
Or as every session goes I loss a lot then win it all back, but never above what I was originally on.
On a side note, has anyone who reads this ever notice that when there is you or someone with a pocket pair, there is always someone else with one too?
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Running bad like a house on fire these last two days. Constant suckouts, idiot calls by me and general unluckiness and shite cards. Burned my £71 BR and another £30 deposit earlier in two days. I am either really unlucky or I am just a terrible poker player. Most probably the latter.
Now skint for a week and a half so no poker for me unless I try that $3 in my 888 account but that site hates me. Also see how much rakeback I get back on the 20th but I doubt it will be much as I only done 1000 points worth this month due to shite limits.
It's just annoying because one minute I am playing well and winning then next its like I have just started playing and nothing goes my way.
Edit:
Scratch 888 I lost that in 6 hands trying to chase a flush, but as usual I never hit it and someone got trips for the millionth time against me. Playing solid doesnt work for me and trying to be a fish(as it works for people against me) doesnt work either. Guess donking every hand may is the last thing to try if I ever get money to play again.
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Pay day tomorrow and I can finally get back to playing after 10 days of having a rest. It has been nice not to think, play or do anything poker related(Except post on here) but I have missed it. I love poker.
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First day back playing and I am busto already. Suckouts and super fish callers keep hitting hands constantly when on the river then they had no right to keep calling. It is like they know they will hit something or maybe poker just hates me at the moment. Standard for me as usual sadly. Skint as well so no more cash tables for a while.
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I received a nice surprise of £8 free in my account yesterday but blew it on a 0.5/0.10 blaze table when I was rather drunk. Did quite well until I was pitted against someone slow playing his pocket Aces and I had TP MK Q and a flush draw so was unlucky I guess.
I think I need to go back to basics and back to the lowest stakes otherwise I will most probably go in circles all the time. Reading up again so any poker info online anyone has any recommendations for you please post so. I still have rbdflyboy's tips for reading his post up in the last page. I have no money for poker until next week so a rest from playing and only revision should be a good thing.
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First day back playing and I am already £22 in profit. Being smart I left the table so I could bank and now my BR sits at £39. Only one suckout against me for that session so I call that a success.
Need to take it slow this time like I posted above, but I have more than enough BR not to go busto for the time being if I do not get stupid.
------------ Aaaand the good run ends as usual. Constant fish hitting big and running into pocket pair traps as per standard. I 3bet with AA and a fish calls me with K10(Like you would OOP) as hits a straight. Story of my life.
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Should have posted in here instead of my old thread last night. This post is in reply to Ronins post in the other thread regarding zoom:
I play Blaze(Zoom) because I find it more fun being able to insta fold your rubbish hands plus its faster to make money(Or lose) and on Ladbrokes Blaze if you win 20 hands each time you get a special mini game to have a chance to win £1, £10, £50 or £100, but out of 15 times I have only won £3 from it.
I think this game must be the reason why I keep losing my bankrolls this last month because its so soft and variance can be high. This whole week I had been grinding normal turbo cash tables and I was winning and had 20BI's so I need to stay off this game now until I have more than 30BI's.
Got enough for one BI on the lowest stake so hopefully I can push on and win some back to start grinding again.
