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UK National Lottery Refuses to pay 4 Million to Duo who Bought Ticket with Stolen Debit Card

Tags: fraud, Jon-Ross Watson, Mark Goodram, United Kingdom.
Posted on 30 April 2019 by "T".

Two career criminals say they will call the police on Camelot for refusing to pay their £4,000,000 prize.

Jon-Ross Watson (pictured left) and Mark Goodram (right), two friends from Bolton, Greater Manchester, are claiming that Camelot is being "unscrupulous" after it launched an investigation into their winning scratchcard.

Watson (age 31) and Goodram (age 36) won the amazing life-changing prize after purchasing a £10 scratchcard on Easter Monday, April 22.

They have been celebrating with lots of champagne and cocktails since then. However, the two are in for a bad turn as Camelot isn't planning to pay them anything yet because the officials of the lottery agency believe the ticket was acquired illegally and so have opened a "thorough investigation" into the incident.

Goodram, a father of two, told The Sun, "We have a winning ticket, where's our cash? We'll go to the police to report Camelot. They're being unscrupulous. I know my rights."

Watson, a father of one, said, "The Lottery catchline is 'It Could Be You'. Well, it should be us. Camelot bosses are messing us around, probably because they know we've had a lively past and been in prison. Well, that's too bad. They need to pay us what we are owed or else."

After they bought the ticket at a Waitrose in Clapham, South London and found out they won a life-changing amount, the two friends have been downing cocktails, champagne, vodka, Jack Daniels, lager, whisky and wine.

Criminal Records
Jon-Ross Watson was featured on the Bolton News website's "Bolton's Most Wanted List" back in July 2017. He was apparently wanted on warrant for failure to appear in court due to a burglary offense.

Meanwhile according to reports by the Bolton News and other local media outlets, Mark Goodram has been convicted 22 times for 45 offenses.

The Winning Lottery Ticket worth £4 Million
The two apparently do not have bank accounts and say they now should be ‘living like millionaires'. They deny that the winning ticket they had was purchased using a stolen debit card.

Mark Goodram and Jon-Ross Watson

They claimed they used a debit card that belonged to a friend only referred to as "John". They did not say his surname, phone number or address. The only other information they said about him is that he had disappeared ‘up North'.

Goodram, who has been released from prison mere days before the win, said, "I'm just out of prison so every day is a party. Add in the fact we have won £4million and this party ain't going to stop soon."

The two pals had the £4Million Red scratchcard and an official receipt confirming it was a legit winner. However, the Camelot personnel who talked to them via phone had become suspicious when they learned the two have no credit or debit cards whatsoever, considering the fact that the winning scratchcard was purchased using a debit card (issued only to those with accounts).

The frustrated two answered that they had a friend named John who they paid £10 to buy the scratch card and then charged it to his debit card. They claimed that this person wanted to remain anonymous.

A spokesperson from Camelot stated, "Security procedures form a key part of the process of validating a winning ticket to ensure we maintain the integrity of The National Lottery. Should there be any doubt surrounding the validity of a claim, we would undertake a thorough investigation to ensure we pay out the rightful ticketholder."

Source:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8949172/mark-goodram-jon-ross-watson-lottery-4million-police-camelot/

 


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25 comments for "UK National Lottery Refuses to pay 4 Million to Duo who Bought Ticket with Stolen Debit Card"

 Mober30/04/2019 10:45:16 GMT
Well if the debit card was stolen, then they are not going to get nothing out of it.
The perfect excuse for the company to keep the money and probably through it back in another ticket. As they should do if what they are claiming is true.
It will be interesting to see how this one will end.
Do you imagine the debit card being stolen, and they even went to the police with the whole story? Smile
 dule-vu30/04/2019 12:13:09 GMT
I know about this news from few days ago,it was on some domestic site!it was problem with ticket,beacuse they need to show from which card they bought this ticket and they dont want to show it!they say that everything is beacuse of their criminal history and that they bought ticket few days after they exit from prison!dont know what is truth!
 CALICUL30/04/2019 15:50:01 GMT
I read here about this case and it is very sad how certain thieves, want to claim a big prize with a stolen debit card. I believe they do not tell the truth because "their friend John" came immediately to clarify the situation, if it was true. They lie and will lose the prize which will be won by another person.
 doubletop77701/05/2019 08:43:10 GMT
I am glad that they are not paying these pair out and well done to Camelot for withholding the money. These two guys think it is okay to steal things and do not think that they have done anything wrong
 Serpang01/05/2019 10:56:40 GMT
I think that's 2 different thing. Thief/steal and gambling. Is task of the casino to investigate the ticket was stolen from someone ? My opinion is casino responsibility to pay the winning, they are casino , not police ! If they just report to the police is okay but not pay ?? Casino just look for any reason not to pay
 bowie198401/05/2019 12:36:02 GMT
Great story. The thing about this - the lottery company may have enough evidence to really not have to worry about a payout, goods bought with stolen cards have no liability towards the original owner but in this case he might have some ownership over the winning ticket, lol...
 Mober01/05/2019 12:48:44 GMT
Yea i doubt the if the card is actually stolen, that the original owner will get
something out of it Smile
Probably the most that he can get is the card back, and a refund for the money spent to buy the
ticket Smile
Still no more news on this, and it is an interesting story.
Wonder if we are gonna have updates.
 CALICUL01/05/2019 15:51:32 GMT
I would love to appear this mysterious character John and to see his version, in which he lied, to share that prize with the two thieves. The two thieves may be looking for him, to attract him into an agreement, which is to the detriment of the national lottery in UK. Smile It's a good case and the final story it's very interesting.
 damosk04/05/2019 16:42:15 GMT
Th is decision to not pay out the winnner of a ticket purchased with a stolen card is an absolutely correct decision. The option to give the owner of the stolen card is somewhat bizarre as they didn’t make the purchase. I am sure the bank that provides the card will refund the owner the lost money used to buy the ticket and that will be the correct decision also.
 pajalnick05/05/2019 07:43:29 GMT
on the one hand of course Absolutely wrong that the lottery organizer refuses to pay the winnings .... They could pay at least part of the winnings to the people who stole the card so they would correct the situation ..... And so they become ordinary greedy people who feel sorry for the money winning ... complicated story
 dule-vu06/05/2019 13:02:59 GMT
in this case they dont know for sure did they took debit card from some other person or not!they just think that this is problem!on other side,they dont want to show this card or some other proof!if that owner of debit card contact lottery,they will know everything!
 bowie198406/05/2019 14:50:03 GMT
Posted by dule-vu:
in this case they dont know for sure did they took debit card from some other person or not!they just think that this is problem!on other side,they dont want to show this card or some other proof!if that owner of debit card contact lottery,they will know everything!

This could be one of those prepaid debit cards you could buy in gas stations therefore it's not that easy to track it months after purchase. Whole story stinks, though.
 pajalnick06/05/2019 15:32:33 GMT
Of course, this is one of the group activities of criminals to buy lottery tickets on stolen credit cards, because if you win, you cannot avoid problems with the law, therefore such an act says a lot about the intellectual level of these criminals and Judging Because they are not paid any money.
 Gerimantas07/05/2019 12:17:41 GMT
Of course interested situations here but i personally think that if they buy ticket for debit card that is not their then it is good decision not to pay money to them, money can be pay to owner of card. They can make purchases for real money and then it is their wins
 dule-vu07/05/2019 14:49:42 GMT
well if somebody was in jail few days before this win on lottery,he still dont have to be guilty in this situation!for me point is in that lottery still need some proof that they didnt payed this ticket or they even stole from somebody!would be nice to see end of this story at forum,if they publishe this!
 CALICUL07/05/2019 16:16:42 GMT
This story has only one end from my point of view. These people will not win this prize and they will not have what to do. I'm sure this lottery has researched, after they found that these people was in jail and then checked that card. No money for they.
 Messer1408/05/2019 01:00:15 GMT
For sure that the Lottery will denied to give the 4 millions, i mean if they give the prize all the people who takes the credit or debits card to the pearson will decide to purchase a looot of ticket and that its not fair
 CALICUL10/05/2019 16:11:54 GMT
Eventually you need a bank account to buy this ticket, because that's what it says from the investigation and they did not buy the ticket with personal card or cash money. This problem will be very heavy for the two buyers because they will regret their whole life that they did not win this prize.
 bowie198411/05/2019 16:40:43 GMT
Posted by Gerimantas:
Of course interested situations here but i personally think that if they buy ticket for debit card that is not their then it is good decision not to pay money to them, money can be pay to owner of card. They can make purchases for real money and then it is their wins

Then how come the card's owner never claimed that the card was stolen?
 pajalnick12/05/2019 13:07:43 GMT
if justice existed in the world, then this prize should have been paid to the owner of this card .... no matter what the purchase was made by fraudsters ... the most important thing is that the purchase was made from this card and the owner of this card must receive a prize .... But it is in an ideal world .... in the real world this will not happen
 Mober13/05/2019 11:49:59 GMT
Is is still pretty unclear to what has actually happened.
The are no solid clues here.
But even if the card was stolen for real and was used for the ticket purchase,
why they should have paid the prize? You find this right? Cause i dont.
They are not doing anything wrong.
 CALICUL13/05/2019 16:49:22 GMT
Some players try to win at the lottery modest amounts as is my case and are not successful. Others buy tickets and earn impressive amounts, but they did not have the brain and they will be left with no money because of the stolen card. Yesterday i played 20 tickets and not luck for me. Sad
 dule-vu14/05/2019 11:56:58 GMT
only valid thing is if you have ticket,you are winner!no matter what tell you something,especially if nobody didnt report stolen debit card or anything like that,they need to pay this guys!its not normal that if you have ticket,you need to make proof when did you buy it!
 Mober14/05/2019 12:06:08 GMT
It is a big story, plus a company that doesnt fooling around..
I believe if everything proves to be ok, they will pay the money.
They cant do otherwise.
Imagine what will happen if they dont. It is going to be very bad business for them.
And the sure thing is, that these companies, always make money.
So what is the point of not paying ? It will just hurt them.
 CALICUL14/05/2019 16:42:04 GMT
I deposited with Skrill and i do not have a problem with that. My problem is that: i need to win first and then i see if they want to give me the prize or not. Smile Sometimes there is an excuse not to give you the money but not always. Anyway my prizes are small.

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