Loyalty program....I mean every month you have accumulated a sum of points(rake paid) based on how many/how fast you will get a reward bonus in the start of next month you have to clear. This is not the specific rules on VC just an example from Betfred. I think Bet365 is the only with no max on the monthly bonus, so the more you play the more you'll get in bonus next month that you have to clear. In that way they get you to play more and more
My plan is to clear all first deposit bonus on the biggest EU sites(love table selection)
Ipoker network with EU: VC-check, Betfred-check, Bet365 deposit made starting soon. after that it's Ongame network with EU: Mansion-check, Bwin(virgin),Eurobet(virgin)
So I only got 3 first deposit left, after that I jump from site to site to clear the different monthly bonus+ reload offers and if it shouldn't be enough to cover my play with non stop bonus I'll be forced to go for next in line Boss media network here you can actually get both first deposit bonus and 30% rakeback.
Im way overrolled my self so nothing there and I dont know anything about the different S&G levels toughness. My own learning proces and profit has been slowed down by me multitabling, so just a recommendation Im now at NL200 but rarely play it I often end up at NL100 tables since the traffic is so soft compared to NL200 imo the hardest level change untill now.
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That's cool about Bet365 having no max monthly bonus. It wouldn't be good for me cause I don't play much.
Ya, its much better playing at poker rooms with nice traffic. I didn't know ipoker network was so big. I just checked and today ipoker peaked at 9k or so players and is down to about 1k when I play. Probably be more profitable playing at peak hours.
Have you heard about mircogaming network? I heard nothing but bad things there like they can't withdraw their money. Unibet is in that network, they took 6 weeks to cash me out and to unfreeze my account. Didn't like that too much. Won't be playing on that network anymore.
Soon, I'm going to try out some deposit bonus plus gift. Can't post the site here. But first, I have a few free bankrolls to work off and a few deposit bonuses.
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I got a little upset when Unibet froze my account. Money was locked and wasn't sure if I was going to get it. I'm pretty sure they were just giving me a hard time. Its not like I hit and ran with the money, I played a lot there. Anyway, happy I got the money and would do it again
Ya, I was checking out pokerscout. Good website. I was checking out the online pros at pokerstars, Isabelle Mercier. She was playing a $333 9man turbo. She was so aggressive lol, I like that in a woman lmao She ended up in 4th so no money.
PT3, I could probably try a demo of it. Any other program you know of for sngs?
I've never played on the Boss network. I got 20Euros free for CanadaPoker for doing a survey but its just sitting there. Waiting for the euro to go down to deposit.
By the way, I just checked some gift bonuses and you get over 100% rakeback most of the time. Like check out Bankrollmob's partypoker, thats 150% rakeback. And theres others with over 300% rakeback
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Yeah she's a foxy litlle thing and like you said she's got temperemant.
PT3 sure try it out for free with a limited hand volumen. Only works on pokerstars,party,ipoker,everest, ongame and fulltilt. I never play tourneys but in cash this program is a must. You can track everything not only opponents but a brilliant tool for own game use it to find leaks using the filters...like telling I want to see all the times I had a OESD sitting in SB in an unraised pot....what ever just an example so you can see which situations need work.
Most gift offers are only valid if you haven't played there before like brm's party offer. If you know any gift offers on sites I haven't played im very interested
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I'm not 100% sure but I think for Party Poker, if you haven't played in your account in 6 months than you can get gift bonus but you'd have to ask partypoker. I want to try free gift at full tilt cause 50%-378% rakeback but I made an account at FTP a long time ago but never had money in there. Not sure if they'll let me. I found a nice site that explains the best poker gift offers, I'd tell you it but don't think its allowed in this forum.
Thanks for telling me about pt3, I'll try it when I sign up for party gift offer with BRM.
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Party gives players, who have not played for a while, some cash. But you never know how much and which restictions come with this offer. In an other forum some guys have just got some money, so check your inboxes for party mails.
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@shokaku I think you misunderstand.
@GeneYuss ehhh total don't know since I've played as winning hobby player for 5 years withdrawing in lumps without keeping track of anything, now im dead serious about my game 7,3 PTBB/100 at NL100 + 1K$ bonus/rakeback with about 30-35K hands pr month....you do the math. Still not enough hands to ´tell winning rate at NL200.
But I can tell you I earn more money on poker than my job so I have saved 3months rent+bills from my winnings so I can go pro soon...no bull
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Posted by M3turbo: @shokaku I think you misunderstand.
@GeneYuss ehhh total don't know since I've played as winning hobby player for 5 years withdrawing in lumps without keeping track of anything, now im dead serious about my game 7,3 PTBB/100 at NL100 + 1K$ bonus/rakeback with about 30-35K hands pr month....you do the math. Still not enough hands to 'tell winning rate at NL200.
But I can tell you I earn more money on poker than my job so I have saved 3months rent+bills from my winnings so I can go pro soon...no bull
I'm so curious what your monthly winnings are M3turbo, can you give us a hint?? But maybe you go pro? Isnt that risly? Be carefull mate, wish you all the best but its a big step right? I would luv to go pro but i'm way from that. I play winning poker thats for sure but not enough to go pro, i play $10 sit n go's roi sometin like 11% so thats not enough But who knows in future
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Hehe domdy I don't think it's possible to "hint" more than I did
Winning rate and number of hands are the 2 factors you need to calculate profit so I allready told you how much but here it goes 7,3 PTBB/100 (1 PTBB=1 Bigbet=2 big blinds) 30-35K hands.
Playing at NL100 so big blind is 1$, 4380$+1000$ rakeback(bonus) this makes a proud final result of = 5380$
I can see that my last sentence is missing a "try to" go pro soon. It's kind of you to warn me, but I don't think it's risky at all since I have made some precautions:
saved money for 3 months rent+bills so I can play brake even for a period while still paying my bills.
got a job actually 2 jobs to fall back on if things shouldn't work.(rather not )
But the only actual change is more than double time for poker This will help me a lot cause I play max 4 tables mostly 3 so it takes alot of hours to get to 30-35K hands. The plan is to play the same amount of hands but spend alot of time on studying, got sick many poker books and articles I would like to read 3 times which I will get the time for now.
Sure it's a big step but it's a step I wanna take or atleast try to take, and worst case scenario is not so bad......I lose complete bankroll and go back to work
Good luck to you domdy
Edit: August NL100 graph attached even though it's not pretty
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GeneYuss i dont think u can play more than two (even one) SnG in Action Poker cause players traffic is low. I have to wait 10 minutes to play a $3.30 SNG 6 persons turbo.. and when i see the list of others sng they are usually on 0 or 1 registered players. I would like to play many sng at the same time too because is more profitable. I hope more people go play in action poker! Good luck.
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I try to take minimum 30 mins where I relax, often I go watch some clips at break.com just to take my mind completely of the game. Snacks are allways nice
My favourite hours is 16-24 GMT+1 all the spewing players are home from work/school to pay me at Ipoker I think in the night hours it's like95-98% regulars so I got stats on everyone but still it's not the easy way.
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Danyon, ya, when I play at Action Poker I have no choice and have to play cash game. No traffic at all for sngs and what makes things wrose, you don't get any points for sngs with less than $1 rake so have to play at $10+ $1 6 or 9 man or a $20+$1 headsup. But I seem to work the bonus off okay at .10,.25 cash game.
------------ M3turbo, break.com looks like some cool videos I'll check it out. I like youtube, have you heard of pokertube? I haven't watched much there.
I usually play at 22 GMT -5 for a few hours and sometimes play a few hours before. I heard its best to play at night time because all the Europeans are a wake and supposily they are too aggressive.
Edited by GeneYuss (05 September 2008 @ 04:34 GMT)
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pokertube yes I drop by everyday they have all pokershows and stuff. WSOP, APT, cash poker, HSP, PAD, interviews etc etc
btw have you heard there is gonna be HSP 5 weeeeeee I love that show
Europeans aggressive....I believe that especially those from Scandinavia(Sweden,Denmark,Norway,Finland) my favourite players are french. 80% of them play loose passive just calling down to see don't know why, they must be stubbard nationality
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Posted by M3turbo: Europeans aggressive....I believe that especially those from Scandinavia(Sweden,Denmark,Norway,Finland) my favourite players are french. 80% of them play loose passive just calling down to see don't know why, they must be stubbard nationality
What?
The french and italians usually play "who has the bigger balls" poker. No matter if i play at everest or ongame, their client software seems to be reduced to one button - bet pot.
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Haha I just love the action at the HSP tables so much sideaction and fun discussions about insurance and stuff like that.
Well I was LAG now I think im LAG turning TAG it depends alot on the table but I mostly play 20/17/4 some tables I play 30/24/5 others 14/12/3,5 so it depends alot on the table im at.
My "pokerballs" are not that big but im VERY consistent and allways ready to play testosterone guys.....I feed'em feed'em feed'em STACK'em
but here it goes 7,3 PTBB/100 (1 PTBB=1 Bigbet=2 big blinds) 30-35K hands.
