What percentage you typically lose your initial hand with AA?
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Posted by DaMessiah666:
Posted by doomdy: Losing more then 50% not possible, if more then 50% please stop poker, ur a complete poker noob. But most likely ur just lying.........
I don't agree. We are assuming Texas Hold'em No Limit? In Pot Limit, it's a very common situation to crack pocket rockets. Just think in that: with AA and two more players involved in a hand, your percentaje of success will reduce in a simple 50%! In Pot Limit, as a average, there are always more than 3 players playing until showdown.
I meant NO Limit, but even in Pot Limit with 50% ur a very bad player.
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for me its something like 30% i think, but im not sure since i dont have any tracker. One thing is sure : i trust in livelihood and statistics, so on long run, its near of 80%, no way ! And indeed, damessiah is right : pot limit and no limit is not the same for AA !
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my record = losing 11 times in a row with AA (half of it all-in preflop)
and no i didnt play it wrong. when i hold aces then im 99% of the time versus 1 player. theres always someone with pkt 22 who hit trips - and whoever says "you have to know when to fold" (sure, theres situations you have to, but not on a rainbow flop like 2 7 9) lies, because he self wouldnt fold...and i think we have seen alot "buuhuu i lost with pkt A´s threads"
i personaly find this math thingy regarding AA is bull**** - for me anyways, ive had alot bad luck. all you have is 1 freakin pair and 2 outs. it took me a while to understand why doyle brunson prefer to have AK than AA.
so my win percentage with AA is 50% (or maybe its just my feeling due to being very unlucky 2 months ago)...could also be 55% well...if you count these small amounts you won on preflop or on flop then it might be a higher %, but im talking about big pots/all-ins. it would be more interessting to see how much money you won/lost. you konw...you win 75(%) x $20 = $1500....and the other 25 (%) you lose x $100 = $2500 lol so statistic =
Posted by Ali_c: i really cant remember the last time i won with either AA or kk..... really been sooo long. always lose with them.'
wish i just could fold them.
guess what...
YOU CAN..
You can fold any hand any time..
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Posted by T3ddyKGB: my record = losing 11 times in a row with AA (half of it all-in preflop)
and no i didnt play it wrong. when i hold aces then im 99% of the time versus 1 player. theres always someone with pkt 22 who hit trips - and whoever says "you have to know when to fold" (sure, theres situations you have to, but not on a rainbow flop like 2 7 9) lies, because he self wouldnt fold...and i think we have seen alot "buuhuu i lost with pkt A's threads"
i personaly find this math thingy regarding AA is bull**** - for me anyways, ive had alot bad luck. all you have is 1 freakin pair and 2 outs. it took me a while to understand why doyle brunson prefer to have AK than AA.
so my win percentage with AA is 50% (or maybe its just my feeling due to being very unlucky 2 months ago)...could also be 55% well...if you count these small amounts you won on preflop or on flop then it might be a higher %, but im talking about big pots/all-ins. it would be more interessting to see how much money you won/lost. you konw...you win 75(%) x $20 = $1500....and the other 25 (%) you lose x $100 = $2500 lol so statistic =
Only one thing to say here.
B******T
What an absolute crock of crap from start to finish.
Anyone who says they lose more money than they win with AA is a complete liar.
If you keep losing with AA then perhaps its because you are playing them badly.... Just a thought..
I win about 80% of the time with AA which is about how it should be. Anyone who only wins 50% of the time with AA is either a moron who does stupid things like slowplaying them, or shoves all in pre flop and hopes like hell..
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i don't lose them so oftend ... i even think that most of the times i don't even get called my AA and i am not putting all in but raise around 25 % of my stack , just go all in when i have a big raise before me or when to much hands calling big blind .
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if you play rebuy tournaments you will face more than one opponent very often (even when you are all-in preflop), so you will probably lose more than 20% (as long as rebuys are available). and if you always slowplay your aces you will probably also win less hands.
Don't believe it's possible to lose more than 50%, seems very strange. Anyway if you want to increase your percentage you have to go all in preflop everytime you have AA. Wrong way to play rokets but with higher percentage to let fold all opponents
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fcumred....are you such a ingnorant ??? like everyone on the earth has to win 80% with aces? wtf lol you make me laugh... next time better read before you speak. first off i do not slowplay, 2nd...i was talkin about "its more interssting to see how much money you win/lose with pkt AA"...but i guess you didnt get it. but to explain you...you dont win/lose all the time the same amount with aces, thats why it would be "more interressting" (to me) than the 80% statistic.
regarding calling me a liar about that...2 months ago i already mentioned in a thread that i lost 11 or even 13? in a row (if you believe it or not...well thats up to you i dont care). so actually yes, those days i lost more than won with aces, but never said i generaly lose more as i win with aces theres ppl who call all-ins with pkt 22 and up, 67s or even 25s....right i should of won 80% of the time, but hey imagine they hit and i lost 100% of the time with aces. and thats why i took a break for 1-2months. s**t happens...sorry to confuse your perfect mathematic world.
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I voted 50%, reason being, as mentioned on some replies, there is a huge difference depending on whether you are playing no limit or fixed limit.
No limit pre-flop and all-in, the odds are about 33%. But in limit games a lot of people see and play their hands on the flop and up to the river, and that changes the odds drastically. You might have to fold your aces on the turn or the river because people are drawing straights, flushes, etc. So yes, 50% or more is definitely possible. Just learn to fold them when you should.
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Posted by teteban: Anyone voting any option other than 1 is either - lying - exaggerating their losing times - just doesn't have a significant sample size
thats just not true! If i just call pre flop i may have a flop with 8 other players. I will loose more often than 20 times. So add, -missplays it.
If you are losing 50% of the time with AA, in any limit over 100,000+ hands played, then u must quit playing poker NOW and FOREVER....AMEN. That would put u into the catagory of unluckiest man/ woman alive and therefore should never gamble, even if u are 10:1 favorite.
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With AA I find you have to raise according to the size of the blinds: the lower the blinds the more you have to raise to knock out the player with the actual winning hand - which may be 2-3o. Lost recently at $3/6 with QQ to 2-3o when the flop came 8-3-3, and this with a SUBSTANTIAL raise preflop, so anything can happen!
Anyway if you want to increase your percentage you have to go all in preflop everytime you have AA. Wrong way to play rokets but with higher percentage to let fold all opponents 
