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Joined: Nov '10
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We all know that best and most profitable style is tight-aggressive. BUT, I think that this is not so good style for micros... This is why I think that: All pros,poker forums, books are saying that TA is best style, donks hear and read that and they trying to be aggressive because everybody saying that this is only way to be profitable, so they raising with nothing, trying to bluff all the time but they actually dont know what they doing. Basically they diggin own grave. Just try to play on micros like players on High stakes poker and you will lose youre chips fast. Also seems everyone forget TIGHT in this style. I notice that majority of players that have TA style (on HUDs) and play micros have losses. So I think best way is to play on micro (I repeat micro) is to be tight-passive and just wait mistakes of those donks who think that they can be Gus or Phil on micros. Of course that doesnt mean that you must check all time. You have to protect youre hand.
Tight range, i try to stay below 25% that works good for me, always enter pots with a raise or 3b. Minimum bluffing, know when to pot control but i also find that theres more value by just betting out against most villians (not all). I also find that different sites are suited to different styles of play, not all micros were created equal, its about adjusting to your table... i.e. playing tighter and aggressive on loose weak tables, and vice versa.
Joined: Nov '10
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Stick with a tight style of play but bet more of your medium strength hands like middle pair becuase the donks will call with Ace high or bottom pair. Do not bluff
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At supermicro-stakes (below $0.10) I have found that tight passive works best. I look for pockets which will give me very strong hands if they hit (for example, low to mid pocket pairs hitting trips), and then punish my opponents. Only exception is AA or KK which I will raise 20-30 big blinds, and then if someone want to call that, well good luck to them. The price to see a flop is so cheap and the general level of players so poor that they will call with just about anything, and if their 7-3 soooooted hits, you have to be ready to fold unless you are very strong. I find that at $0.10 big blind things generally start to get better, and a raise of 4 big blinds is somewhat understood to mean that you have a decent pocket. But then even at much higher blinds you will see donks calling with the unlikeliest of hands, and hitting...
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Posted by mahdrof: At supermicro-stakes (below $0.10) I have found that tight passive works best. I look for pockets which will give me very strong hands if they hit (for example, low to mid pocket pairs hitting trips), and then punish my opponents. Only exception is AA or KK which I will raise 20-30 big blinds, and then if someone want to call that, well good luck to them. The price to see a flop is so cheap and the general level of players so poor that they will call with just about anything, and if their 7-3 soooooted hits, you have to be ready to fold unless you are very strong. I find that at $0.10 big blind things generally start to get better, and a raise of 4 big blinds is somewhat understood to mean that you have a decent pocket. But then even at much higher blinds you will see donks calling with the unlikeliest of hands, and hitting...
That is exactly what I was thinking! I play that way and have pretty good profit... From other posts I see that me and you have similar styles and way of thinking...
Tight aggresive for micros as in the long term you'll make profit rather than loss, because at micros you have much more lose players there but in the middle stakes, $10 or higher you'll need to mix up your game to make profits...
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Providing your playing tight at micro games you should be a winner, I think it would depend on the table itself weather to play passive or aggresive but both should work.
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Posted by jovicakralj: That is exactly what I was thinking! I play that way and have pretty good profit... From other posts I see that me and you have similar styles and way of thinking...
im a losing player at the 1c/2c games but at winner at 5c/10c games
i think the reason for this is all the best hands AA KK QQ AK always get cracked, by stupid hands no 1 respect your raisers at them stakes, so to all learner player give the 1c/2c games a miss, too many donks calling your 3 bet or even 5 bet with 78 sutied etc and beating you, the play there is more like play money games.......... you get loads of action, most players at them stakes play losse aggresive, il try to play tight agress, but like i said always get donked out so il wont be playing at them stakes lose alot a win harldy nothing,
now playing at 5c/ 10c theres alot of differents playing tight agressive makes you a winning player, cause its working for me at the moment, i get respect for my 3 bets ect and raiser and when they call or raise me, i know there must have a good hand cause of my table image (very tight) so i can put them on arange of hands AA KK QQ AK ect.... they would try to bluff a player who harldy plays any hand, cause ive might have AA ect,
also i ve notited at these stakes when ive been playing on table for 30 mins and a new player arrives they seem to over play there first hand..... try to test out the players they raise i call every1 else folds cause im tight player only call with good hands, well the new player doesnt know this, and i just let them hang them self easy double up for me this has happend a few times....
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The only way to beat the micro stacks is to play with lot of agression in the flop and pre flop. If you use agression in position its the best way to beat the micro. If your get called all the way its better that you hit the gut shot or stop betting to the pot. Because that leads to the tight passive players that call with the best hand. Tight passive is very good but just if your playing in the table that you know that some players raise with no plan for the flop. When you get ride of that kind of players its better to play with maximum agression.
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but you cant now when donks would have good hand and when not,beacuse if donk is aggressive he will push whole time and even you have AA you could lose,beacuse donks love to pay on Q 3 just beacuse its suited and then he hit set or flush and you tilt!so you must have some luck to play againts donk,when they pay on anything,but you cant know will they have monster hand or s... of hand!
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Posted by jovicakralj: We all know that best and most profitable style is tight-aggressive. BUT, I think that this is not so good style for micros... This is why I think that: All pros,poker forums, books are saying that TA is best style, donks hear and read that and they trying to be aggressive because everybody saying that this is only way to be profitable, so they raising with nothing, trying to bluff all the time but they actually dont know what they doing. Basically they diggin own grave. Just try to play on micros like players on High stakes poker and you will lose youre chips fast. Also seems everyone forget TIGHT in this style. I notice that majority of players that have TA style (on HUDs) and play micros have losses. So I think best way is to play on micro (I repeat micro) is to be tight-passive and just wait mistakes of those donks who think that they can be Gus or Phil on micros. Of course that doesnt mean that you must check all time. You have to protect youre hand.
What you guys and girls think?
Tight-aggressive works best as no dude ever folds his top pair... not beeing aggressive having monsters is -ev there at all time as they always will call. beein too loose is bad. You wont bluff them anyway so you will mostly need the best hand anyway.
Joined: Feb '10
Location: Finland
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If you are playing for the purpose to grow your bankroll and someday move up stakes and then do t all over again then only TAG is taking you there. Any other style is a radical move and does not gdt you the profit in a long run.
You said also tight passive Can you please explain me how is tight passive profitable You mentioned also that that by playing tight passive you can lock the players who think they are Gus or Phil in mocro stakes right? Well if you know those players and have looked even a few sesions of their game or hsp, then you would know that you dont have to be TP to get the money from those guys because they will call you just as well when youre playing TAG - and in most cases I find having the control over the pot is the key to victory, no
Joined: Mar '08
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Tight-passive is not so profitable, but at micro stakes lots of people are making mistakes, this is were the TP player is going to get some money, playing like a rock does have up and downs, your hard to beat when involved in a hand yet easy to take blinds off, adding little to the pot means you wont be winning big. At micro its fairly easy to sit back and wait for a spewtard, so for micro I think this style is profitable, but its not fast cash and you bankroll should go along way. Its not such a bad approch for micro players, but id advise TAG.
Joined: Nov '10
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I explained how tight-passive is profitable. Donks bluff all the time, wait for hand and let them bluff all money. That dont mean that you should only call. You just need to make table think that they can bluff you all the time and then BOOM! I also sad that you should protect youre hands. You also should strongly raise premium hands preflop. Thats how
Happy New Year to all of you guys! Especially to my twin brother mahdrof Now Im gonna start drinking and waste myself before midnight