Posted by jovicakralj:
Reach final table? In single table SNG? |
In a single table SNG first 3 places are paid. The third place doesn't count because it only returns your buy-in. To break even you need to win every 4th game or to finish second every second game. It is a very tough task. In fact, I believe 1-table SNG is the least profitable format in online poker.
Posted by jovicakralj:
And when you reach final table and win first place that is usually between 100 and 1000 buy ins! You can make 1000 buy ins on cash games every day?
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No, you can't. But to reach final table out of the field of 2000-5000 players...how often does it happen? How many tourneys did you play and how many final tables did you make? In cash tables you can't win that much but you can win STEADILY (7 out of 10 sessions, 8 out of 10 sessions etc...).
And you know why? Because in cash games you can choose against who to play. Make notes on the players...Mark the donks...Chase them all over the room. You don't have this privilege in MTTs.
Posted by jovicakralj:
Top online earners. Yup, top 10 are probably cash players, lot of them comes and goes... |
More like top 100 and top 20 of them don't go anywhere (Dwan, Ivey, Antonius, South...)
Posted by jovicakralj:
Isuldur1 lost his entire bankroll in one session! |
That's cause he is a donk. All know that. He lost it in a game that he is weak at (PL Omaha).
Posted by jovicakralj:
Look at list of PS Supernova elite players. Lot of them play SNG. Dario Minieri is one of them. |
Where can I look at him? He quit to play on PS a couple of years ago. He was a loosing player all the time on PS both in cash and MTTs.
Posted by jovicakralj:
Dario Minieri is one of them. And he is first guy that bought Lamborghini with FPP. |
He bought it with the rakeback that he generated, not with his winnings.
Posted by jovicakralj:
Cash game players are more famous because of swings and amount of money that they put on table.
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and their winnings...
Posted by jovicakralj:
If you cant see why I wont bother to explain. Read my second post.
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In your second post you write a lot about larger cost of tilting or hands played in a wrong way. That is all true. But why do you keep saying that cash game is more of a gamble? In my understanding, gambling is taking moves which are against mathematical odds. If you don't want to gamble in cash games, then just don't. Play by the odds. From this standpoint, playing in MTT is more of a gamble. If your stack is small and blinds are high you HAVE TO gamble sooner or later. Never happens in cash games.
Posted by jovicakralj:
Risking whole 600+25$ on format that you are not familiar with! |
Why do you keep talking about risking whole bankroll? I said: enter a table with 25$ and DON'T REBUY. You are risking only 25 $.
Posted by jovicakralj:
Why would you make nice profit on one type of game, feel comfortable playing and then you switch on type of game where you are not showing any profit only loses??? |
To learn it and to make even more money. It is self-improvement. It is the same as going up in stakes or learning other types of poker (Stud, Razz etc).
Posted by etna2007: i know, no worries. Im not fighting you. Just writing my own oppinion mate  |
The same, man.
All I want to say is that if you are good in MTTs you should try to learn to play profitable cash game. Otherwise you are missing a great opportunity.
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PS while writing this long post I might have accidentally clicked on Report button of etna2007 post above. If so, admin, please, ignore.
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Posted by schmoyster:
Where can I look at him? He quit to play on PS a couple of years ago. He was a loosing player all the time on PS both in cash and MTTs.
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Have to make a correction to this statement. Looks Like Minieri is still with PS. But due to this weird separation of PS into several rooms he probably now plays on Poke rS tars.it
Magatt will probably be able to clear up the matter. While he played in the main room he was a loosing player. That's a fact. You can look up his graphs.
Edited by schmoyster (25 March 2011 @ 19:17 GMT)
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