Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6483
This is what I posted on the P.K.R forums thread regarding this:
Sorry if I offend anyone, because I really don't know much about the situation other than it (maybe?) stemming from one person being shot by the police.
Something about this kind of rioting/looting in 1st world countries just really upsets me. All I see is a bunch of over-privileged assholes wrecking peoples cars, businesses, livelihoods, etc. Not to mention the physical violence against people themselves. From the coverage I've seen it just seems to be a bunch of opportunistic youths who probably feel self-entitled for some such reason and are "lashing out at authority". Still no where near is sickening as soccer/football/hockey riots, like those recently seen in Canada, that actually makes me feel physically like vomiting, to see people torching peoples cars etc after a sports match. Makes me sick.
Anyway, as I say, sorry if I offend anyone if there is more than meets the eye here. But my current impression is definitely just a bunch of pricks causing problems. And it really upsets me because there are some really unfortunate situations in a LOT of far worse-off countries than England and to see the Londoners behaving like this just makes me think they're taking their lifestyle for granted and have no concept of what real hardship is.
Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 59 (M)
Posts: 6787
Posted by jessthehuman: Something about this kind of rioting/looting in 1st world countries just really upsets me.
If 1st world countries import large numbers of 3rd world populations, they stop to be 1st world coutries. The ancient Romans made the same mistake, and paid the price.
Joined: Jun '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 67 (M)
Posts: 318
I agree with shokaku never heard it put that way before but it was true then and it is true now the problem is everyone interferes with every one else and its bull
If we lived and let live and allow those who want to to have a different way live for everyone would be a lot better, but the world is (in relative terms ) getting smaller and our population getting bigger.
Joined: Oct '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 63 (M)
Posts: 442
Posted by tOxIcFiSh:
If we lived and let live and allow those who want to to have a different way live for everyone would be a lot better, but the world is (in relative terms ) getting smaller and our population getting bigger.
I'm afraid that I don't agree with this. Multiculturalism is a failed experiment. If I move to another country I expect to live according the customs and practices of that country. I would not expect to live according to the customs of my native country, and have my new neighbours adjust or have to make allowances for my way of life.
all this started of cause of the pigs shooting Mark Duggan for fook all
Riots in London began after several hundred people gathered by a police station in London on Saturday to protest against the death of a 29-year-old man, Mark Duggan, who was shot by police as he resisted a pre-planned arrest on August 4th . Police suspect Duggan of being linked to criminal groups. Given the explosive situation in London, experts express doubts that British special services and police will be able to guarantee security in a city which is hosting the Summer Olympic Games in 2012.
The Guardian and The Times write that the recent outbreak of violence is a result of police losing credibility with the public and that it calls for law enforcement to revise and upgrade its methods.
Apparently, there is more to it than just police work. London, which is full of migrant workers, is gripped by social problems. Tottenham is one of London’s poorest neighborhoods, with the highest level of unemployment and a fairly high crime rate. Young people in this neighborhood have few options to receive education. 90% of those who took part in Tottenham riots were dark-skinned migrants from former British colonies.
The recent riots testify to the failure of the British government’s social and migration policies in recent years. Prime Minister David Cameron said in February that the so-called “multiculturalism” policy in the UK has suffered a fiasco because millions of migrants, mostly from Islamic countries, had failed to integrate into the British society. Mr.Cameron had this to say as he addressed the Munich Conference on Security:
"We have failed to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong. We have even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run counter to our values. So when a white person holds objectionable views – racism, for example – we rightly condemn them. But when equally unacceptable views or practices have come from someone who isn't white, we've been too cautious, frankly even fearful, to stand up to them."
David Cameron underscored that Islam and Islamic extremism stood separately. While no one will question that, it’s clear that the British society is facing an inter-ethnic crisis and that the authorities have to take effective measures to resolve it. Otherwise, the recent riots will look insignificant compared to an inter-ethnic and inter-religious crisis that might break out on a national scale.
------------
Posted by chopos180: Multiculturalism is a failed experiement. I believe we should look towards a superior race and wip out all jews, muslims, blacks like what Hitler tried to do 60 odd years ago
Joined: Dec '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 2087
tbh im not to sure what it is all about, i know the guy got shot and thats where it started but these things tend to have other things involved to but what i am not sure. I think blaming people who are not from london is a bit of crap as i think and i have not heard anything different that most are young london youths doing it. as for all the hitler crap and racial b******t well what can you say about that but tends to be idiots that say s**t like that and have no real clue about what they are saying
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6483
Posted by Flippedchips: tbh im not to sure what it is all about, i know the guy got shot and thats where it started but these things tend to have other things involved to but what i am not sure. I think blaming people who are not from london is a bit of crap as i think and i have not heard anything different that most are young london youths doing it. as for all the hitler crap and racial b******t well what can you say about that but tends to be idiots that say s**t like that and have no real clue about what they are saying
THIS
------------ I'm glad you posted that flipped, some of the other comments were making me sad.
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714
I wrote a long reply, but its not worth it. So in short, Mark Duggan was not a innocent man, know to have arms, a drug dealer and basically a all round gangster, no doubt being corned his only option(for him) was to shoot his way out, no remorse. Actually, the riots show that these groups of people are out of control, and we need to put an end to this US gangster lifestyle crap, using the excuses its all we know, there is no jobs and all the other BS. WE ARE ALL IN THAT BOAT! All those out on the streets are sheep, dancing to the drum of gangsters, those who organised this were sat at home watching it on the big screen TVs paid for by violence/drugs and other organised crime. If we use the "its immigrants" approach, then if life is bad for them hear then they are always welcome to go back to the better life! If these people wanted to be taken serious then they have plenty of other ways to voice themselves, not by destroying livelihood for those who have nothing to do with the way they choose to live their lives, just a bunch of thugs. Sometimes I do actual think, shoot them, just a drain on society, when you only input in life is to make other live hard, then to me your just a dog who needs to be put down, lets start treating humans as the animals we are and stop with all the respect and do good s**t. Its funny how we think loosely said, its OK to go fight a war, them people are OK to be killed in the name of whatever, what are wars about? but cant bring the same mentality to general society. If we lose control, they become the police, lets get some snipers set up.
Joined: Oct '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 63 (M)
Posts: 442
Posted by B1gfoot: I wrote a long reply, but its not worth it. So in short, Mark Duggan was not a innocent man, know to have arms, a drug dealer and basically a all round gangster, no doubt being corned his only option(for him) was to shoot his way out, no remorse. Actually, the riots show that these groups of people are out of control, and we need to put an end to this US gangster lifestyle crap, using the excuses its all we know, there is no jobs and all the other BS. WE ARE ALL IN THAT BOAT! All those out on the streets are sheep, dancing to the drum of gangsters, those who organised this were sat at home watching it on the big screen TVs paid for by violence/drugs and other organised crime. If we use the "its immigrants" approach, then if life is bad for them hear then they are always welcome to go back to the better life! If these people wanted to be taken serious then they have plenty of other ways to voice themselves, not by destroying livelihood for those who have nothing to do with the way they choose to live their lives, just a bunch of thugs. Sometimes I do actual think, shoot them, just a drain on society, when you only input in life is to make other live hard, then to me your just a dog who needs to be put down, lets start treating humans as the animals we are and stop with all the respect and do good s**t. Its funny how we think loosely said, its OK to go fight a war, them people are OK to be killed in the name of whatever, what are wars about? but cant bring the same mentality to general society. If we lose control, they become the police, lets get some snipers set up.
Joined: Jun '11
Location: Netherlands
Age: 58 (M)
Posts: 434
Just been on the casual´s united forum.....thy are not happy about the game England V Netherlands game being cancaled......and that is from both set´s of supporters.
Don´t F**k with our ruck or else we will get involved. .....from both English and Dutch
think London burning is funny do you ?
.....from both English and Dutch
