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..... < ....I've been sliding for a few weeks now too....! Just slowly bleeding away my bankroll no matter what I do...! ......and getting absolutely clobbered by folks playing junk against my superior hands just rubs salt into the wound....!
... < .....I don't change much though.....just lay off for a little while or just keep playing through....whatever....!
I had something like 888poker ... I played all the freerolls that I could play and then when I had a few dollars a profit I lost all in sitingo ..... as it seems to me it's a wrong game .... now I'm playing on PP exactly in sitngo and taka as I have in my account there is money, when I lose, I raise the rate
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n my case when I got money from the freerolls, it also playeded in the Sit ngos, but I played only the Fifty, those of 10 players, where the first 5 get the prize, according to the amount of chips. They are quite accessible. The minimum buy in, in PS, is 1.50. I think they are worth it, but you should not go crazy at the beginning. Only play with premium hands
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Posted by pajalnick: I had something like 888poker ... I played all the freerolls that I could play and then when I had a few dollars a profit I lost all in sitingo ..... as it seems to me it's a wrong game .... now I'm playing on PP exactly in sitngo and taka as I have in my account there is money, when I lose, I raise the rate
I don´t think so, pajalnick... I think that it is a bankroll´s manage problem. In S&G you need 100 Buy In for support the variance. 50 BI for an agresive strategy or 300 BI for the conservative way. Then, if you have only a few bucks, you need a micro BI. 888 have sits and go about $ 0,1, you could make an agresive try with $ 5. PartyPoker don´t have this option. They start the S&G with $ 1,1 of BI, you need $ 55 for a bold career! PartyPoker is no friendly with cents´s players! A few wekend´s freerolls, and some satellite´s tickets for $ 0,01 BI. But, anyway, you have to play where you be confortable, it isn´t it?
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I completely changed my playing style a couple of years ago and I have not had a major downswing since then. Do you want to know my secrets? I occasionally intentionally play dumb at the poker tables. That works like a magic trick!
maragatero, did you try to play small buy-in tournaments with several hundreds players? Like $1.1, $2,2 or so? Playing 10 cent sit-n-goes seems a waste of time to me, you will not win much there, but it takes time, brain resources and may tilt and discourage you from further playing. And if you're a good freeroll player, you can succeed at penny tourneys also, players style is almost same there.
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Yes like you say for yourself in first writing ot is part of the game, you sometimes have very bad luck and lose many tournaments one after another and another and sometimes you think you don't know how to win, and lose with very good cards. But at some time luck is back and you stsrt win again
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Posted by Sandmanilo: maragatero, did you try to play small buy-in tournaments with several hundreds players? Like $1.1, $2,2 or so? Playing 10 cent sit-n-goes seems a waste of time to me, you will not win much there, but it takes time, brain resources and may tilt and discourage you from further playing. And if you're a good freeroll player, you can succeed at penny tourneys also, players style is almost same there.
Dear friend I only follow the teachings of the books and try to be coherent with my mind limits (about waste my own pockets money). I separated $ 10 of my poker money and make with them my first bankroll for try S&G. The books say that after cash play, that I don´t like it, S&G are the more little bankroll needed, with 100 BI. I started two month ago, and I have there $ 18. When I will arrive to $ 40 I will play $ 0,40 S&G in 888. If I want to play Tournaments, where the variance are very much more intense, in relation with the numbers of players, I need 300 BI minimun. For 1,1 or 2,2 (PartyPoker tourneys) I will need $ 330 or $ 660. If you remember, I maked a poker´s capital about $1200, it´s no sense waste 1/3 or 1/2 af them in my first steps. I have 3 years in the future for my poker career.
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Sit and Go (or single-table tournament excluding Jackpot Sit and Go) players normally face relatively manageable (upswings and) downswings; however, it is not uncommon for them to experience godlike winning streaks or godawful losing streaks.
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Posted by Tony_MON7ANA: Sit and Go (or single-table tournament excluding Jackpot Sit and Go) players normally face relatively manageable (upswings and) downswings; however, it is not uncommon for them to experience godlike winning streaks or godawful losing streaks.
you are absolutely right my friend ... I wrote in other topics of this forum that I could win from $ 150 500 dollars ... but the floor I got into a tough tilt and I had a black streak of failures ... as a result I came to a logical result .... I lost everything ... of course it's very unpleasant for half a day to lose 500 dollars, but I'm an optimist
Posted by Sandmanilo: maragatero, did you try to play small buy-in tournaments with several hundreds players? Like $1.1, $2,2 or so? Playing 10 cent sit-n-goes seems a waste of time to me, you will not win much there, but it takes time, brain resources and may tilt and discourage you from further playing. And if you're a good freeroll player, you can succeed at penny tourneys also, players style is almost same there.
Dear friend I only follow the teachings of the books and try to be coherent with my mind limits (about waste my own pockets money). I separated $ 10 of my poker money and make with them my first bankroll for try S&G. The books say that after cash play, that I don't like it, S&G are the more little bankroll needed, with 100 BI. I started two month ago, and I have there $ 18. When I will arrive to $ 40 I will play $ 0,40 S&G in 888. If I want to play Tournaments, where the variance are very much more intense, in relation with the numbers of players, I need 300 BI minimun. For 1,1 or 2,2 (PartyPoker tourneys) I will need $ 330 or $ 660. If you remember, I maked a poker's capital about $1200, it's no sense waste 1/3 or 1/2 af them in my first steps. I have 3 years in the future for my poker career.
Yeah, I remember that you made around 1k in freerolls, that's why I'm wondering why you play at such small stakes . Didn't know that you've decided to play with only $10 from them I see, you have almost doubled your initial bankroll, and that's a great result! You know what to do Hope that your bankroll will raise permanently!
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I too remeber one time I had a good bankroll in party poker about 100 buyins for my tournaments i okay and then I had very bad run for many weeks and lost more than 90% of my bankroll, and do nothing but play same buy-in and this is sit and go and double or nothing so to lose so many tournaments is bery bad luck
Posted by Gerimantas: I too remeber one time I had a good bankroll in party poker about 100 buyins for my tournaments i okay and then I had very bad run for many weeks and lost more than 90% of my bankroll, and do nothing but play same buy-in and this is sit and go and double or nothing so to lose so many tournaments is bery bad luck
of course the losing streak acts very depressingly .... I was of course depressed when after a pleasant figure of $ 500 on my account a sad figure appeared 0 dollars .... Of course I will soon have a payment from BRM of $ 50 to Party Poker but I I do not believe in myself .. I will try to bet on sports
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I´m afraid to lost my poker money, because I would lost my poker´s pride. This is not by playing very well or have much luck, ir´s only that I could maked it without spend any own money. Then if I will lost it, I think that I´m become a play money´s player! But you tell about a point that is in my interest (of my future) pajalnick: Bank Roll Mob payed to you $50 of the golden 5000 points, it isn´t it? And they deposit in your PartyPoker acount tracked with them? Because late or early I could win it and I asked me how will be the payment...
Downswings are part of the nature of this game to be honest. There is no real reason to stress on them unless they start to frequently cost you dearly in the long run. Try 2 eliminate any bothersome surroundings in and out of your game, keep calm and carry on.
Posted by maragatero: I'm afraid to lost my poker money, because I would lost my poker's pride. This is not by playing very well or have much luck, ir's only that I could maked it without spend any own money. Then if I will lost it, I think that I'm become a play money's player! But you tell about a point that is in my interest (of my future) pajalnick: Bank Roll Mob payed to you $50 of the golden 5000 points, it isn't it? And they deposit in your PartyPoker acount tracked with them? Because late or early I could win it and I asked me how will be the payment...
of course you can make a withdrawal of funds to payment systems but I prefer to make withdrawal of funds for Party Poker ..... I am a player .... and therefore 50 dollars for the game is nice ... you do not need to make a deposit and spend your money .. .. all just specify the account name and withdraw funds
Pajalnick, I'm sorry that you lost your $500 winnings from a free Knockout tournament I guess, you have played at higher stakes than you usually do, and have met much tougher players there, that might be the reason GL in your future games.
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Posted by pajalnick:
Posted by Gerimantas: I too remeber one time I had a good bankroll in party poker about 100 buyins for my tournaments i okay and then I had very bad run for many weeks and lost more than 90% of my bankroll, and do nothing but play same buy-in and this is sit and go and double or nothing so to lose so many tournaments is bery bad luck
of course the losing streak acts very depressingly .... I was of course depressed when after a pleasant figure of $ 500 on my account a sad figure appeared 0 dollars .... Of course I will soon have a payment from BRM of $ 50 to Party Poker but I I do not believe in myself .. I will try to bet on sports
What happened? You lost $ 500 in a short or long time? Maybe I did not understand you. Sometimes you get excited about going from having little money to an interesting sum (like those 500) and start to raise the buy in, bet more strongly, worry less about losing in microphones, and start losing money faster. That is, one goes from being tight to being loose (and I say it outside the tables). You always have to keep the strategy, raise levels if you are fit for it and return to the level you were if you see that the new, is not your thing. The same with sports betting. You want to make money fast and that is the problem.
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I think ligador37, that pajalnick don´t like make money and keep it in itself. I think that pajanick, and many mobsters friends enjoy to play and win, and if the amount is big the emotion is better. He/they pursue this incomparable sensation and pay for it. Each one have your plann or your objetive, your purpose, and our mistake is to evalue theirs with ours parameters. I have a plann: learn to play (that I like) for make some monthly money in my retirement, and I fall insane if I lost u$s 500 in an afternoon...but it´s my life, not them!
Posted by maragatero: I think ligador37, that pajalnick don't like make money and keep it in itself. I think that pajanick, and many mobsters friends enjoy to play and win, and if the amount is big the emotion is better. He/they pursue this incomparable sensation and pay for it. Each one have your plann or your objetive, your purpose, and our mistake is to evalue theirs with ours parameters. I have a plann: learn to play (that I like) for make some monthly money in my retirement, and I fall insane if I lost u$s 500 in an afternoon...but it's my life, not them!
not for the day but for half a day ..... it was so .... I played and at the same time I watched the live broadcast of the tournament in Sochi ..... and there people played insanely .... and I'm probably influenced by this broadcast too began to play insanely ... very sad it's all
< ....I've been sliding for a few weeks now too....! Just slowly bleeding away my bankroll no matter what I do...! ......and getting absolutely clobbered by folks playing junk against my superior hands just rubs salt into the wound....!
I guess, you have played at higher stakes than you usually do, and have met much tougher players there, that might be the reason 
