What still remains to be a never-ending saga of Phil Ivey versus the Borgata Casino continues even this year 2020.
If you need a detailed refresher on how Phil Ivey's edge-sorting case started, check out these articles:
Split Decision on Phil Ivey versus Borgata court case
Phil Ivey and friend ordered to repay $10M to Atlantic City casino
Last year in February, a New Jersey federal judge[...] Read more » Phil Ivey Continues to Fight Back against Borgata Casino
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will knewt that this will come in this year also and who know till when this "fight" will be,but borgata ofcourse will not drop out from this money!they know that he play outside europe and they cant do anything about that!now its question how they they think they will get to his money!
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The only chance of Phil Ivey is to fight against them, because the amount of money is very large and he doesn't want to pay. I don't really know if he cheated or not, but an amount of 10,000,000 dollars is very beneficial and probably he will not give it back, unless the law obliges him.
Posted by dule-vu: they know that he play outside europe and they cant do anything about that!now its question how they they think they will get to his money!
From the casino's point of view it's all about sending a message: Phil Ivey might get away with this but nobody else will. So, they are no longer after the money IRL just saving face about their reputation.
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hm,that another question!maybe they will pay more attention,but still when somebody take money from them,they again cant do anything if he go from USA and give every property on wife on somebody else,like its in ive's case!so I think that they will look more on people who play in that moment in casino and do they cheat,before they take more from them!
Posted by dule-vu: so I think that they will look more on people who play in that moment in casino and do they cheat,before they take more from them!
In reality they had no clue how Ivey outsmarted them in the first place back at the baccarat tables, they only found out what he did after they clearly examined the videos made that night. So it's not like you couldn't get away with something like this if you manage to keep it low and not clearing out the whole vault.
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probably they will never know how he took money from them and on what way,but they have paper from court and thats why everything is on their side!this big casinos and companies pay big taxes and ofcourse every court will be on their side!but its good that somebody take big amounts from them!
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It is curious that American law does not prohibit them from entering and playing in other casinos. I'm sure if this thing would happen, Phil Ivey pay the debt to Borgata or give up permanently to play games. I'm curious how this story will end.
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he propably still would fight those choices and battle on till the end and have exhausted every appeal and option he has. altough i don't really know very well about the deeper contect of the story but sounds like a good read so gonna check all artikels about it
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i am really on the side of ohil ivey on this one how can you blame a player for taking advantage for your mistakes he didnt bring the cards with him from home for gods sake he just observed and played same thing with counting cards , it is not cheating they want everything based on luck so they can win in the long run since always the house has the edge
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Many people are on Phil Ivey's side because casinos can easily afford a loss of 10 millions dollars but for him to pay is much harder. It's weird but that's the reality. They can negotiate something and can reach to an agreement. I don't know what it will be but we'll see.
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borgata have paper where court say that he is guilty and he need to back money,thats end of story!gambling lobby is big in USA,like in guns and other things and court will be on their side always!they pay lot of taxes and state will not be on players side! other thing is that we love that casino lose money!
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Hard to get away with this one Casino had the ruling in their favour. So they will keep going after him. Not to mention that now, everywhere he goes they will be looking for him with half an eye, as we say here The sure thing is he has the moeny for the payback...
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This Borgata casino can track Phil Ivey as much as they want because will not be able to seize the earnings of this professional player. Only a judge can make such a decision. I think the situation will change in better for this company because the law must be respected.
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but they cant do anything to him!he play in europe,they cant ask for that money,he play on private tournaments or live on big EPT and we still get his money!till he decide to play in america,especially on WSOP,then they can take money when he win something,in other cases they cant do anything!
