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  15-Apr-09, 10:20   #1
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umarplus 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 1118
Hey Mobsters, your oppinion is asked.

As everybody knows, a decent Bankrollmanagement will maximize the Poker you get for your money. But it does however not make you a winning player automatically, right?

So? Can you ignore decent Bankrollmanagement sometimes when you are very confident with your Poker? Is it overrated by many? Or do you think everybody who ignores proper Bankrollmanagement is doomed and will go broke?

Click the Poll and lets have a friendly discussion! Sleepy

     
  15-Apr-09, 10:27   #2
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 6698
Bankrollmanagement is only usefull for players who will actualy win in poker. If you lose it can only slow down the process of going bust. Then it is better to set a budget for a month.

     
  15-Apr-09, 10:34   #3
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 3851
nice poll urma.
I think BRmanagement it's a necessary tool for most of players; it is essential for poor player;
but i think that a very skilled player can ignore it: obviously without sitting a table with his whole stack. I think they (notice i don't say us Big Smile Big Smile ) can start with 4 or 5 buy in and surely can earn good money.
i don't think it is overrated cause skilled player are a minority.

     
  15-Apr-09, 10:47   #4
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Dellbo99 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 342
If your a losing player at the lowest stakes then BRM won't stop you going broke. If you can win at the lowest levels it will.

If you can't win at the lowest stakes the you might as well learn for cheap ( or free with the Mob's help )

If you ignore proper BRM you will go broke. If you are very confident with your Poker then you may be able to reduce your number of buy ins required for a good BRM but only at the low levels. 100NL and up variance will bite you and you will go broke eventually.

Most players have to learn the hard way and some never learn but to maintain a continuous win rate BRM is the only way.


     
  15-Apr-09, 11:29   #5
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MANUEDO 
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Italy
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1955
I think it's essential to paly with an appropriate stack.
Low limits allow you to play woth a short bankroll and to improve our skill.
But if you are really able to play at high levels you can easily earn money in any condition.

     
  15-Apr-09, 11:57   #6
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ViperX 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Ireland
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 202
In my opinion BM is something basic for any online poker player. Even with some good skills playing at too high stakes is risky - if you hit some serious downswing you'll bankrupt... sad but true. Sad I know a few people who experienced that.

     
  15-Apr-09, 12:53   #7
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awood88 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 1885
I can't say its overrated but for me its a basic part of the game. Skill is far more important but if you take your whole stack to a table you're asking for trouble. BR management doesn't really mean anything other than playing sensibly imo. Then again losing your bankroll in a few days by playing seven games a day and losing it in a few weeks by playing seven a week really has no difference in the end. I suppose its about what stakes you play but then thats just knowing your own skill level. Good BRM for me is not anything separate from simply being a good player. Hope that makes sense.

     
  15-Apr-09, 14:34   #8
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Jerzy_Kiler 
Joined: Jan '08
Location: Poland
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 38
Really good poll urma!
It's difficult to play always with BM but I'm trying. Usually I have enough money to play, but sometimes I make mistake and go to NL .50 with last 30$... Confused

     
  15-Apr-09, 14:37   #9
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Shin 

Joined: Mar '08
Location: Switzerland
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 19
I think a BRM is a good thing.
Like my preposters says, if u really want to make money u should do it
Although I don't care it that much.
If I keep losing in a row, than I keep an eye on it. Big Smile

     
  15-Apr-09, 14:52   #10
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Jodoli 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 469
I think that the bankroll management is the most important thing when you are willing to build a large bankroll. The skill is the second important thing! But to be successuful you will always have to respect your limit!

     
  15-Apr-09, 15:47   #11
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fcumred 

Joined: Apr '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 1238
Abusing your bankroll is like watching dirty movies. You know you shouldnt do it, you know its naughty, but you just cant help yourself.

I dont care who you are, at some stage you've abused your bankroll badly. Anyone who says they havent is telling porkie pies.

The best way to find out how to manage a bankrolll is to abuse it and go bust. You soon learn not to do it again

     
  15-Apr-09, 18:20   #12
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mirked 

Joined: Mar '09
Location: Sweden
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 97
I think its important. I have had 100$ + many times now but haven't had a good BRM. But now after getting 50 dollar on full tilt I decided to follow a good BRM wich has made me succesful and more confidence with my play - now I really dare losing a sit n go.

     
  15-Apr-09, 20:31   #13
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Calmplay 

Joined: Apr '08
Location: Mauritius
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 4111
It's just a good way of avoiding being broke very quick, for example you deposit $50 and get an another $50 instantly, then you play with a nice $100 and if you respect BRM there is no way you'll lose the whole money in 2-7 days. And playing real money games is way less boring than just playing freerolls.

     
  15-Apr-09, 20:36   #14
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pokersztar 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Hungary
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 426
Television does a good job of depicting the perfect poker player. He is cool, relaxed and in his element. He isn't sweating or moving about nervously in his chair. The loser, on the other hand, is overweight and going bald and about to bet his house and life savings on a single card. that is why bankroll management very important.

     
  15-Apr-09, 20:48   #15
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Whiskerer 
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 188
Well yes, cause otherwise odds are you will not make a cent, but in the long run it will even out, without bankroll management you will go bankrupt in the long run no matter how good you are.

     
  16-Apr-09, 04:11   #16
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GeneYuss 

Joined: Jan '08
Location: Canada
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 2697
It's obvious the less bankroll management you use, the higher the risk you take. Luck plays a roll and everyone has bad runs so even if you play perfect you can still go bankrupt. Bankroll management just minimizes the risk.

     
  16-Apr-09, 08:07   #17
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Jinn 

Joined: Oct '08
Location: Russian Federation
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 47
As was said many times above, minimizing the risk is what BRmangement actually grants you. Cool

     
  16-Apr-09, 13:53   #18
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bialymaly 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Poland
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 17
I'm don't use bankrollmangament, yesterday i'm sitdown in action poker with 40usd, i'm play in the $3/6 - in action poker it's possible, and i'm win in one day 1200usd... I'm Fuc*** Bankrol Mangament...

     
  17-Apr-09, 02:23   #19
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Mordo 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Brazil
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 94
It´s hard to me take care about it, cause this I lost my bonus lol

     
  17-Apr-09, 06:20   #20
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pokersztar 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Hungary
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 426
Congratulation for the 1200 Dollars. You had luck because you won but what do you do if you lose 1200 Dollars ? Because you can be a professional player but if you have no luck then you lose all of you chips. I think you should use a bankroll management because it rules your chips, your money and if you lose you should not be nervous because you had 30 maximum buy ins and now you have 29. I think it is very good.

     
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