Joined: Jun '08
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The funny thing is: if I know that software is "like it is", I can use it to play, like I would never play in live poker: pushing with any 2 when I'm a big stack, because I know it will put me magic flop, turn or river and change my hand into the nuts, if shorter opponent decide to call.
Posted by mascona: The funny thing is: if I know that software is "like it is", I can use it to play, like I would never play in live poker: pushing with any 2 when I'm a big stack, because I know it will put me magic flop, turn or river and change my hand into the nuts, if shorter opponent decide to call.
You must be the first poker player ever to say they use the "rig" to their advantage
Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 37 (M)
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Micro cash games are rigged to hell. Idiot players calling on any raise and getting paid off time and time again. I start winning then get buggered over and over. I play properly and never hit a decent flop or they call all raises and hit or I give in and play like them and I still lose.
I am actually starting to hate this game now it boils my blood.
I think there is something wrong with the pokerstars site very wrong indeed. The history I have seems to show a clear favouritsm to russian players. no matter the hand they take down aa kk everytime i am up against
has anybody noticed the same? lets work together to finally put this one to bed
Posted by exostenz: I think there is something wrong with the pokerstars site very wrong indeed. The history I have seems to show a clear favouritsm to russian players. no matter the hand they take down aa kk everytime i am up against
has anybody noticed the same? lets work together to finally put this one to bed
What are you expecting to do ? If Pokerstars is rigged, there is no way on earth you would be able to find out and prove it conculsively.
As for them favouring Russians, that is even less likely to be able to prove and whilst you may have a valid case in what you suggest, no one will ever be able to detect the rig because quite simply there is no way you can find out about it.
You just have to accept that poker could be rigged, and either give up playing or play on and hope one day to get lucky.
I play because I enjoy it, nothing more nothing less. I do not play to get rich, I do not play to try and be better than everyone else. I play for the fun of it, and because I do, it means I don't have any expectations that I may hit the big wins.
Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 43 (M)
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its not rigged at all ! it makes no sense for sites to rig their games, its all about maths and stats and playing the opponent in front of you, in the long run playing the correct system WILL win you money, how many people are disciplined enough to do that is a different story, i play poker because i enjoy it, the battle of wits ect and at the end of the day SOMEONE has to win...... not like a betting site, the pokersites make their money off rake and tourney fees, rigging games would give them no extra advantage at all they want everyone to pay and play, then keep playing, not play then think this is rigged and leave, persevere, the more you play the more youll learn
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Whats stopping them from rigging cards to make more action hands for more rake? The amount of times I see these super action hands and the players in the hand with big cards happens a lot.
Posted by bolhec5: I have a bit of programming experience and it's not a problem to rig software a bit so it doesn't show anomalies in your starting hands but still messes a lot with your games.
I'm actually an employed Software Developer and Programmer (professional). And it is certainly not hard to rig the software, however - it is literally impossible to do so in a way that it won't show anomalies. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either it's statistically significant or it isn't and if it isn't then it will have no affect on the companies profit and if it is then it will show under analyse. This is why thinking major online poker-rooms are rigged is fucking stupid.
errrrrr........ except, of course, for those with nefarious sysadmins . Although those target a specific player rather than the general community.
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Romania
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Posted by TigerAxL: if u re not improving is just as simple as it sound ...Change u re style & if u don t have patient give up on poker is not for all ,i had almost same thinking in my first year with lot of controversess but i ve learned so much more from past years so yea ..now i enjoi & love poker oh ,forgot... wellcome in our comunity ,now u re a mobster
Man, you should give up on English... Trying to advertise.... "our" community??
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Posted by uno1Bomber: Here is one moment: This a game. You'll lose 70% of all hands and win 30% . But when you can't play, you'll fold that hands And if you play good, you'll win also with crappy hands too (when bluff) I play because I love this game, not for money or anythig else. Sometimes I play with my friens homegames and there some situation as at online tables. Homegames are rigged too??
Who sez we must lose 70%? Did you dreamed last night? You also say, "i play for fun" Really? How come?! Do you write here for fun too???
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Posted by yout85: .....PokerStars is about to celebrate it's 100,000,000,000th hand. Can you imagine how much work would be involved in rigging them, so a specific player wins, or loses?
It's a ludicrous statement, and I'm not gonna waste my time by replying to this thread.
....oh crap.
But you already replayed. But, anyway, tell us, how much work is involved?
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Posted by mascona: the bigger stack will win 75 % of hands even when holding totaly absurdal cards like 35 or 47 vs. big pockets....suddenly they beat you with unreal flush or impossible runner runner strite.
That's old... Was one time when big stack won all the hands. Why? Things must finish fast....
Someone sez here about ppl who are chosen. That's right!
Was a day, when i was tilt and a bit drunk... Don't know why i was tilted, maybe i was played a stvpid hand, like a mrn, and i didn't wanna play and i saw on FB their post with KK, and i go to play, one, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, don't know how many. . and i lost against a runer runer, strange call from the beggining, then i was tilted, all in all hands, 7 in the row, and 7 times i met A/A, last hand i won with 7/2o, I SWEAR ON MY LIFE! then i was tilt more, and pay wtv 2 hand, till i lost all my BR... at that moment i decided to quit playing there. I love that site, i really do, but I was raised on the streets, by myself, i don't know what love and care is, i reject people who will try to show me, i don't like easy things, coz i will cut my fingers, coz i'm always prepared to met hard things, and when i cut cheese, i cut myself... I don't know how to react to love and care...coz...i'm used with: fight and build by yourself"!
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You know and read on every forum of poker the ONLINE POKER is rigged, why you're still in the game? Why don't you quit? That's the game, you risk your money to win or lose some cash when that site just win some cash on every hand, not so much but that cents or dollars of rake/hand is enough for them because people play hundred or tousand of hands.
Joined: Feb '11
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Coz i love the game. Didn you understand that? I didn't risk any money... only my time.. I don't quit b/c i believe in right things. I mean, if i don't kill you to steal 20 cents, why should i think you will? I'm a bit naive, a bit more.
"hat's the game, you risk your money to win or lose some cash when that site just win some cash on every hand"
I understand this is the "game" it's a bit good for someone, what i don't understand is this:
why freer-oolls? It's like i invite you to my home, i give you a coffee, then i kill you, i want the coffee back, i wanna invite other person ...
What da heck? Take the coffee, i will bring you from my home some, and..... please... don't invite anyone else ... Stay there , drink and enjoy.
I don't know you, so logic is , i don't wanna insult you!!!!
Please take it like a story:
" why you're still in the game?"
If we met a bad girl in our road, and that girl cheated on us, we should give up on girls? We have to become monks?
Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
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good players win on ALL sites, so for it to be rigged it would have to be a massive collusion between all site owners/major shareholders,if you think about it logically its obvious it cant be rigged,,,,,,,, not like america landing on the moon, now that was rigged haha
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Posted by HenryMinute:
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by bolhec5: I have a bit of programming experience and it's not a problem to rig software a bit so it doesn't show anomalies in your starting hands but still messes a lot with your games.
I'm actually an employed Software Developer and Programmer (professional). And it is certainly not hard to rig the software, however - it is literally impossible to do so in a way that it won't show anomalies. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either it's statistically significant or it isn't and if it isn't then it will have no affect on the companies profit and if it is then it will show under analyse. This is why thinking major online poker-rooms are rigged is fucking stupid.
errrrrr........ except, of course, for those with nefarious sysadmins . Although those target a specific player rather than the general community.
Well actually - the super user scandal DID show under analysis.. that is how they were busted.
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Seems folks only remember the times the cards went to the other guy... They don't take into account the times the cards went in THEIR favour... Lots of times I've played and at some point, the cards on the table went somebody else's way, and they took the pot. Many times they went MY way, and I took the pot. Sometimes I was short stacked and won, sometimes big stacked and won,...and same thing again being short stacked, but I won or lost... It's all random...
You can't win every hand... The looser you play,...the more hands you will lose... The tighter you play, the more hands you will win relative to the number you play,...you just don't win as many pots,...but you also lose less chips in the long run,....and your stack doesn't go up and down and up and down like a yo-yo...
rigged
. Although those target a specific player rather than the general community.
