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  23-Nov-14, 04:46   #1
Advise from Pokerstars 0 
pinotte 
Joined: Jun '13
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Enclosed is a copy of an advice reveived from pokerstars. I received it in french and translate with google i hope its clear enought. I would like your opininions

We noticed that during the tournament No. 1016182900 retardiez you the game by taking the maximum time you allotted for each hand, regardless of the evidence of the decision.
Delaying the game is against the spirit and is unethical. We want all our players have a positive experience on PokerStars and disruptive behavior such as this undermine the enjoyment of everyone.
We must ask you to stop using all the available time for each move as the hands move unimportant or unplayable. In case of repeated violations, repressive measures that can go up for the removal of playing privileges will be considered. We hope this clarifies our position on this.
Thank you for your understanding and your cooperation.
kind regards,

     
  23-Nov-14, 08:18   #2
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
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wow= this is such a bullsh1t. i do understand their position, probably they are receiving many complaints from those who are pissed by dudes who are wasting time, but i wonder can they actually ask you to no spend maximum time on the hand if they give it to you... you are not cheating or anything close...

     
  23-Nov-14, 08:23   #3
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jsikonja 

Joined: Mar '14
Location: Slovenia
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 255
i dont say i hate this but i wonder how far they will go after they warned you, is a bit hard for you now to wait i guess... Smile

Hope they wont be unfair here.

To take your extra time away seems fair, anything else isnt.

If you guys love to wait 1 hour for 3 games, well i dont. And is as they say just wasting each others time here.

People even abuse the disconnect Extra time on bubbles it gets annoying after 1 turney like that already and its always same...

It stalls game over bubble too much and this kind of s**t has nothing to do with how good you play but only u have more time to wait than others. Now imagine there would be 5 min wait time available those with 24 hours on their hands would get further than those with less time, has nothing to do with skill and most do it because others do anyway.

Edited by jsikonja (Sunday, November 23, 2014 @ 08:35 GMT)


     
  23-Nov-14, 11:11   #4
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pinotte 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Canada
Age: 73 (M)
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Here we are talkng about the PSO skill league tournaments. I am not playing all my other games the same way. But for these tournaments it is my way of playing them. The 8 seconds are at my disposition and i take them i am not steeling anything or make collusion.


Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused

     
  23-Nov-14, 11:25   #5
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
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i would email them and tell them you feel they are in the wrong and time is given for a reason

     
  23-Nov-14, 11:35   #6
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mahdrof 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Canada
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Eight seconds is not a long time to be running down the clock, they should take that stick out from their arses and loosen up a bit. Anybody who has issues with a slow player at the table is probably ready to start multi-tabling anyways, and then it won't matter if one of them is not so fast. My 2 cents monsieur Pinotte.

     
  23-Nov-14, 12:35   #7
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rasheek77 

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Posted by mahdrof:
Anybody who has issues with a slow player at the table is probably ready to start multi-tabling anyways, and then it won't matter if one of them is not so fast. My 2 cents monsieur Pinotte.


I agree 100% and to be honest I'm a hate of slow play but it is [part of the game and i can understand why sometimes they run the clock down. Feck me pokerstars it's a bit of a joke to give somebody something and then punish then for using it, Now that just done make any sense to me.

My reply to this >>"Thank you for your understanding"<< would be, " do you UNDERSTAND your giving me and EVERY Pokerstars player XXX amount of time and now you want to punish for using the time you, Pokerstas give us?

     
  23-Nov-14, 13:44   #8
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PokerKing76 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: Canada
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 746
The funny thing is I saw on the PSO forum that pokerstar pass from 12 to 8 seconds when they start the PSO promotion.
So if they are not happy, just cut the time to 4 sec.

I dont know if demodaggy receive that from fulltilt Blink

     
  23-Nov-14, 13:48   #9
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
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They're more concerned about THAT and not all the lists of multiple account CHEATERS I've sent them that they do NOTHING to prevent...??? Thumbs Down Angry

     
  23-Nov-14, 13:52   #10
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PokerKing76 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: Canada
Age: 40 (M)
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Posted by demodawggy:
They're more concerned about THAT and not all the lists of multiple account CHEATERS I've sent them that they do NOTHING to prevent...??? Thumbs Down Angry


You forgot to mention the problem about BINGO players Angry Angry Angry

It's our right to register late and take the time we want, if they are not happy they only have to use their rule " we can change rules anytime we want"

Edited by PokerKing76 (Sunday, November 23, 2014 @ 13:57 GMT)


     
  23-Nov-14, 14:22   #11
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StheP 

Joined: Oct '14
Location: Serbia
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If that is as you said that you only stall for 8 sec, thats ok.... but imagine you play something else and 1 player evry single hand uses max time he can, that would piss me out!!! Ofc if its bouble time thats ok, but in evry single hand that would not be ok....And pokerstars then done the right thing to send you warning.... But if it is as you said that on PSO time is only 8 sec, then you cannot piss evryone with 8 sec to play, and they are wrong about this warning...

     
  23-Nov-14, 14:26   #12
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PokerKing76 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: Canada
Age: 40 (M)
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Posted by StheP:
If that is as you said that you only stall for 8 sec, thats ok.... but imagine you play something else and 1 player evry single hand uses max time he can, that would piss me out!!! Ofc if its bouble time thats ok, but in evry single hand that would not be ok....And pokerstars then done the right thing to send you warning.... But if it is as you said that on PSO time is only 8 sec, then you cannot piss evryone with 8 sec to play, and they are wrong about this warning...



What do you think poker pro do? they take all the time to see if you are goig to tilt... to check your patience Blink

It pissed me offf too but I get to go over it Angry

And I do it sometimes Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  23-Nov-14, 15:17   #13
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bowie1984 

Joined: Apr '12
Location: Hungary
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LOL, pinotte just got reported cuz he pissed of somebody for using his time to think.
It's like poetry.

     
  23-Nov-14, 17:00   #14
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xgcsnippy 

Joined: Jan '13
Location: Canada
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 1066
When I am approaching a bubble I waste as much time as I can if I am short stacked. It is only fair as they allow it in game now they are telling you not to use the time your allotted....haha

What fucking b******t, if I ever get a mail like that again I am going to go social media on their asses!


     
  23-Nov-14, 17:06   #15
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BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 1854
It's ridiculous by stars IMO...
I luckily never received a warning for this even doing this every day (when multitabling hard I even time out a lot).
If they have a time-rule, they should accept if someone uses it at it's max.

     
  23-Nov-14, 17:26   #16
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bullettooth1 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
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I don't see the point of wasting time on every hand just to make the money. That would totally piss me off aswell if I was on the same table.
If you are struggling that much to make the money around the bubble maybe you should look at improving your game rather than looking to waste time Confused just a thought.

     
  23-Nov-14, 17:36   #17
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xxxpokerxxx1 

Joined: May '08
Location: Canada
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 941
post the email they sent you on there twitter and facebook,pages every where,they can read about even in the pokerstars forum

     
  23-Nov-14, 17:48   #18
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PokerKing76 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: Canada
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 746
Playing in Premier Skill League Qualifier right now and many players do that.

     
  23-Nov-14, 17:49   #19
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Skpmorita 
Joined: Feb '14
Location: Tunisia
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Posts: 2076
Posted by bullettooth1:
I don't see the point of wasting time on every hand just to make the money. That would totally piss me off aswell if I was on the same table.
If you are struggling that much to make the money around the bubble maybe you should look at improving your game rather than looking to waste time Confused just a thought.


that was one hell of stupid advise
you gotta use every possible way to make it to your advantage
using your time-bank makes people more tilt , give you an opportunity to get to the money
that is your right , they are not giving 3 hours each hand , just reasonable amount of time

can you please explain , what a short stack at the bubble got to do to improve his game ?
at that point you just play your cards .. can't bluff and can't play average hands ( you got called every time) only option wait for a decent hand to push all-in . and while you waiting use that little time to at least got your buy-in back
unless you have a master strategy Confused just a thought.

     
  23-Nov-14, 17:57   #20
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uno1Bomber 

Joined: May '13
Location: Russian Federation
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 541
I don't think it's right. Can someone read the rules and find it there? I'm too lazy for that, but I doubt it's against the rules.

     
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