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Of course Maragatero my friend, but opponents are very dangerous. Today i played for the $5.50 ticket ( the second satellit ) and 3 players played almost every hand with all in. At almost each hand one of them was all in. I started with 3000 chips and after 20 hands i had 12 k. Then these players intervened and i finished on 108 place ( not ticket ). These players are disgusting for me. They did not skills. They play only all in.
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Yes, I meet some of them. I´´m playing now with one of them in the BankrollMob´s freeroll on 888poker, they seem like lottery players trying to make a pot´s goal! For me is hard to play with aggressive villains, but sometimes they really have the nuts so beware with them! Go all in maybe a strategy to seems a loose attitude
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I have nuts, but i can not always risk the whole stack, as they will. They play a disgusting poker and is not normal. Because they play in that way, then i lose my hands and not ticket. They are too desperate. There is a possibility to raise 4-5-6 blinds but they prefers to risk everything. This is too bad.
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Well, I made this thread to talk about this kind of players, although the people who make all the rebuy and add-on that is possible, only to win the 1/3 that the money which they invest. They could be playing any game where they could throw their money in a table and waits that something good happens!
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You made this thread about the players' poker game and we are talking about it here. The thread has many comments but unfortunately the users from this site they do not talk too much about games. They do not want to say what they hate or love. He prefers to talk more in other threads about news.
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With this kind of players you can not win. I know it from my own experience. These players have a terrible luck. I did not have this kind of luck in my poker life, except freeroll games. I do not know why they have this good fortune, but it is clear that this software make favors over and over for them.
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I want one of them semikarla! This is the whale that I need to make grow up my bankroll! They could have a target shooting poster to all of us, certainly? Really we only can think in win money in this game thanks to them. We have to be grateful with them, and allow them to win some hands with air. We have to congrats they and wait for our opportunity
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Maragatero, with this kind of players you lose more than you win. They risk any cards with 97, 45 or 23 and for they it means only all in, but the idea is that they earn with these cards in 80% of cases or more. Do you think you can win against them? In my case i lose. Maybe the software is more generous with you, but with me not.
After reading almost the whole thread, I'm still on the side of CALCUL. I agree more with him than with the others. Even if the blinds are only 2-3 minutes, you still want to play poker, not the lottery. But these players, which says CALICUL, just kill all the desire to play. If you have KK, even AA makes no difference, if 4-6 people went Allin. You will lose time after time. Almost always. Previously I was out of balance - I had tiltover, broken mouse, cursing... Over time this passed. I do not play tournaments for money, where the growth of blinds is less than 5 minutes. That's how I solved the problem. And freerolls are freerolls Lucky - not lucky
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I think that we claim to the gamblers/fishes when we lost with them, when they have the variance of their side. And this is no correct. If we focuses on play an optimal playing, knowing that the variance exist and every premium hand could suffer a bad beat, we win in the long term always. When I lose playing well versus a fish with luck, I congrats him so he may be grat to play bad with me again
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I specified it several times. I like blinds with 8-10 minutes and Kent1974 has the same opinion. It's the best because you have more time to show what you can with your skills. About freerolls i play at risk and i'm not too concerned, to concentrate too much here. If i'm lucky in a freeroll, i'll take a picture here to show.
Posted by maragatero: I think that we claim to the gamblers/fishes when we lost with them, when they have the variance of their side. And this is no correct. If we focuses on play an optimal playing, knowing that the variance exist and every premium hand could suffer a bad beat, we win in the long term always. When I lose playing well versus a fish with luck, I congrats him so he may be grat to play bad with me again
I agree with you that no one guarantees the victory of the premium hand. Especially if it's multi-way. And I also agree that losing to Pisces, we give him positive emotions, in the hope that he will not leave the room. And will time after time, to make deposits and play with regulars. The policy of the game of regular is based on this. But that's not the point. The bottom line is that even at a premium distance and should win, but with this game (any two Allin) fish, in fact, all these percentages to win still can not stand any criticism. I meant that. As for cash games, everything is clear. The distance evens everything out. But in MTT it almost does not work. At stake is the tournament life - this is a huge difference.
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The point of this thread, my friend, is about gamblers players, people who seem like they are playing another game, not poker. And they are too much in the freerolls and low buy-in games. The numbers of players (and this people) make the MTTs the poker´s game with the most variance. So, therefore, you have to have the biggest bankroll manage of all the poker´s games
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It's weird what you say my mobster friend, because here are 27 pages with 534 replies and you say about the point of this thread is for gamblers players. Well, when you say that, you need to know that poker gamblers mean everything and we must to talk about everything. Everybody plays what he wants and has different game options to play. We can talk about live games, not only online and if the thread closes, we open another one or not.
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Is weird that a mobster friend said to the writer of the thread what is its point, don´t you think? And if everybody can play how they want, what is the point of complaint of that? The point is that the poker theory is based on mathematical aspects like probabilities, combinations, permutations, etc., and these say what is an optimal move and what is not. All the rest is gambler´s move
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Poker theory is one and practice is different my mobster friend. This is what i mean but there are other things which you must avoid. In online poker you can not be very focused at low stakes, to see the moves of the players. Is very hard when you play few tables but at high stakes the difference is huge. You play real poker here with big players and here the players are not wild and that is the kind of poker thati like the most. Unfortunately i do not have the money of a professional to play with them.
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well, at one point we are according: different people take different ways to do everything. But some of that ways is created by the fantasy and are a path in the clouds. I believe in the study and hard work to makes progress, step by step, I´m doing it. But I understand to you, some people don´t do it anything of it, they buy a ticket and win a fortune. That is real too!
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I do not understand one thing here about your words with some people buy a ticket and win a fortune. We often play poker and why we do not have that luck to win first position, 2nd or 3rd. It's disappointing to see how poker software does not respect us. They should offer more for us, but the reality is another. Something is happening and it's not good for us. That luck will come for us or not? I'm
