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  11-Apr-10, 00:49   #1
Questions for rake +13 
dozn01 

Joined: Sep '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 5000
hi all there has been alot of questions about rake back , i found this and hope it helps Smile


What is rake?
The 'rake' is the amount the poker room removes from each pot, as a fee, for hosting/offering the poker game. The amount taken from each pot varies by limits, but is generally anywhere from $1-$3 on average per hand.

What is rakeback?
When you sign up with a poker room through bankrollmob Smile which has a rake back offer, you will receive a refund for every $1.00 that you pay in rake. This refund is known as rakeback. No matter what limits you play, whether you are a professional or just play poker for fun, receiving rakeback will greatly increase your win-rate, and allow you to make more money.

What is "Total Rake" or "Net Revenue"?
Each poker room may have a different term for "Total Rake" or "Net Revenue", but it is essentially the total rake paid by you as calculated by the poker room.

What is a Rakeback Provider?
A rakeback provider is a company that advertises for a poker room or a group of poker rooms. bankrollmob are paid a percentage of Total Rake for each one of their players. bankrollmob then gives this payment from the poker room, in the form of rakeback, back to you, the poker player.
but dont forget they need this to keep the site running, plus they give the best NDB around Blink

What is the "Dealt" Rakeback Method?
"Dealt" Rakeback is the best MGR calculation method in the Rakeback industry. The following online poker rooms, Full Tilt, Cake Poker, Red Star Poker, Players Only and True Poker all use the "Dealt" Rackback method to calculate MGR.

Just to keep it simple, if you have been dealt cards in a hand, from the poker sites point of view you have paid rake in that hand, even if you didn't see a flop. So, if you are in a 10 handed full ring game and are dealt cards in a hand, and the rake for that hand was $2.00, under the "Dealt" Rakeback method each player is considered to have paid .20 cents in rake.

The "Dealt" Rakeback method is the best method for poker players who play a very tight aggressive game style in a full ring game. Any player who plays tight will see fewer flops, but with "Dealt" Rakeback they still earn rakeback for every hand.



What is the "Contributed" Rakeback Method?
The "Contributed" Rakeback method is the most commonly used method to calculate MGR. It is used by the following poker sites, Ultimate Bet, Absolute Poker, Fortune Poker, Poker Heaven.com, Fat Bet, Poker Nordica, Paradise Poker, Poker Kings, PKR Poker, Action Poker, Carbon Poker, Betfair Poker, Virgin Poker, Aced, NoiQ Poker, Cellsino Poker and Minted Poker.

In order to recieve Rakeback you have to have contributed money to the pot. You are payed Rackback according to your contributed share to the pot. Blinds and limps are considered contribution to the pot. If you have not contributed to the pot, from the poker sites point of view you have not paid rake under this formula. thats why ipoker stinks Full tilt rocks Smile

Here is an example: If in a full ring game 10 people are dealt cards in a hand, but only the two blinds contribute money into the pot, then in the "Contributed Rakeback method, they are the only two paying rake. So if the rake for the hand is $2.00, each person will be paid only according to the amount they each contribute to the pot. In this case they would be paid according to each of their $1.00 contributions. If the small blind folds their hand pre-flop and only the big blind is left in the hand, then the small blind still gets paid a % of the rake but only according to the amount they contribute to the pot, which would be 1/2 of the big blind.

The "Contributed" Rakeback method gives the poker players who play more aggressively the edge, especially in short handed games.

unbelieve init ........even i didnt know half of this,
still get rake back at Full tilt even thou i havnt payed a cent into the pot Smile

Edited by Dozn01 Blink

big tony (admin) can also Edit if he feels the need to do so Smile

Edited by dozn01 (11 April 2010 @ 01:05 GMT)


     
  11-Apr-10, 01:48   #2
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duck_1991 

Joined: Dec '09
Location: Romania
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 586
i didn't knew the dealt method Smile prety weird ...

     
  11-Apr-10, 04:43   #3
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Flippedchips 

Joined: Dec '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 2087
must of took u a while to type all that out to dozn Blink

     
  11-Apr-10, 04:51   #4
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teteban 
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Argentina
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 748
+1, man, I think this should be made into a sticky. Althouigh I did know it all, the rake/rakeback questions rank in the top. This post being sticky could sure help people and avoid the same question being asked over and over! Thanks!

     
  11-Apr-10, 09:29   #5
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 6197
Great post Dozn01, maybe some off it is copy-paste but that doesnt matter.
+1 from TheDom Thumbs Up

     
  11-Apr-10, 12:20   #6
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dozn01 

Joined: Sep '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 5000
Posted by doomdy:
Great post Dozn01, maybe some off it is copy-paste but that doesnt matter.
+1 from TheDom Thumbs Up



yeah some of it is but had to edit it so i could post on this forum, still took me awhile to do thou Smile

copy and paste is not easy as its seems Big Smile

     
  11-Apr-10, 13:17   #7
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Hajinnho 

Joined: Jan '10
Location: Germany
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 1379
Posted by doomdy:
+1 from TheDom Thumbs Up


yeah he is able to post more than some funny / stupid stuff. Really helpful, thx!

     
  11-Apr-10, 13:40   #8
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 3851
nice post Dozn Thumbs Up
Worship Worship

     
  11-Apr-10, 14:36   #9
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dozn01 

Joined: Sep '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 5000
Posted by teteban:
+1, man, I think this should be made into a sticky. Althouigh I did know it all, the rake/rakeback questions rank in the top. This post being sticky could sure help people and avoid the same question being asked over and over! Thanks!



ask tony (Admin) see what he thinks like you said this sure could help people Smile

     
  11-Apr-10, 15:17   #10
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pokkerimees 
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Estonia
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 402
Yeah, i never have enough time and patience to check the rake method. Actually there could be sticky for all pokersites anybody knows with their methods for counting rake.

     
  12-Apr-10, 12:11   #11
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debb313 
Joined: Mar '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 68
veryy helpfull topic m8 thanks Smile

     
  12-Apr-10, 12:58   #12
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jporp 

Joined: Aug '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 411
Great post. Thanks dozn Blink

     
  12-Apr-10, 16:32   #13
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Chartoule 
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 1261
Hi dozn01.

Really great post. That´s just all a new player must know about rake and rakeback. Why don´t you post it 8 moths before?!!!!! Big Smile.

Bye guys!!

     
  12-May-10, 18:19   #14
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MOAR 

Joined: May '10
Location: Denmark
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 67
Not a bad post. Thanks Smile

     
  12-May-10, 18:46   #15
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xxxbchxxx 

Joined: Nov '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 2194
good info ...public service ...great Big Smile

     
  15-Jul-10, 15:11   #16
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dozn01 

Joined: Sep '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 5000
big thank you to every1s comments, glad i could of been of service Smile

also to tony (admin) for making this a sticky Blink

     
  2-Sep-10, 18:24   #17
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Sapoazul 

Joined: Feb '09
Location: Brazil
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 273
Very good answers about the questions that we have about rake..

one more Thumbs Up for U

     
  23-Oct-10, 04:05   #18
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Sherbert 
Joined: Sep '10
Location: United States
Age: 57 (F)
Posts: 62
Very good. I need ten points just for reading such a long post. LOL Glad you made the post. It good to have new posts to respond to or learn from. Good job. Worship

     
  7-Dec-10, 07:45   #19
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cashblitz 
Joined: Sep '09
Location: Australia
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 34
thanks for that news,nice work buddy keep it up Spade Club Heart Diamond

     
  7-Dec-10, 11:37   #20
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Rainman 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: Ukraine
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 108
Very informative post. But I don`t play cash anyway.

     
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