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Posted by kutruk: Pokerstars-options-table display options-hidde player images.Peace bro
you GOTTA be kidding me, you mean all this ranting and raving and you have had the option to hide peoples avatars this whole time??? DONE DEAL kino...........damn kutruk.....wish you would have posted this a LONG time ago lol.....
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Posted by djhempey:
Posted by kutruk: Pokerstars-options-table display options-hidde player images.Peace bro
you GOTTA be kidding me, you mean all this ranting and raving and you have had the option to hide peoples avatars this whole time??? DONE DEAL kino...........damn kutruk.....wish you would have posted this a LONG time ago lol.....
your not getting it dude . This thread was to debate the use of the religious pics in the avatars, and to know if people find trhem offensive in the same way i did with some of them.
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Posted by kinogomes:
Posted by djhempey: @jovi and kino.........I don't run this country nor do I (or any other citizen for that matter) get to vote on if we go to war or not....that's all up to the greedy A**H***S who are in charge....and for not being racist, you 2 sure know how to stereotype people pretty well...........also, if it makes you 2 feel better to call me stupid, pathetic, and retarded, I understand the maturity level I am dealing with here and there is no point in furthering this conversation....peace.....
dude you should think that before, when you called me ignorant. Mpost of the users i already know some of them i had already some cold conversations too, but with respect. you come here and in youer second post you start insulting a guy that have 1 year more than you in the site. Talking about racism, its a conversation that goes to nowhere, i myself already made jokes about people and i already was vitim of racism when i lived in Canada. Iam from a country well known for what we did we the past. Unfortunately i cant change our history, unfortunately some people suffered alot in the past. We cant change our past, its our fate, we have tp acept it in order to make a better future. The most important thing is to tolerate other races, even if we dont like chines, or black people, or white people, or gypsys, we should tolerate them in other to live peacefull. Iam not expect to live in a perfect world, its an ilusion, but iam expecting that we can learn from our mistakes.
so let me get this straight......because I'm new to this site, I am not allowed to speak my mind?? how many posts do I need to have before I have freedom of speech??? I must have missed that part when I read the "terms of use" and the "user agreement." I know I'm not stupid, pathetic or retarded.....therefore it does not bother me when you say I am......so why do you get so sour when I called you ignorant??
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Posted by kinogomes: i found some avatars really ofensive and iam not mtalking just about the religious avatars.
and next time a hindu feels offended and ask me to remove the cow in my avatar because cow´s are holly in their country? i see you feel offended but in the same way i could say i feel violated in my rights to have fun in my life by making funny avatars about religion or whatever.
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Posted by kinogomes:
Posted by djhempey:
Posted by kutruk: Pokerstars-options-table display options-hidde player images.Peace bro
you GOTTA be kidding me, you mean all this ranting and raving and you have had the option to hide peoples avatars this whole time??? DONE DEAL kino...........damn kutruk.....wish you would have posted this a LONG time ago lol.....
your not getting it dude . This thread was to debate the use of the religious pics in the avatars, and to know if people find trhem offensive in the same way i did with some of them.
well in that case kino......no I don't find myself offended by anyones' avatar regardless of what it is....in fact, if people use religious avatars 'cause they think it brings them luck, it's for the better in my book, because that is their way of telling me that I'm a better poker player than them before we even played 1 hand......but I play on full tilt and you can't upload a personal avatar...........
well well, I am impressed , I thought I was the biggest bitch here but you guys take my crown, I kneel before the new bitch's,,,, catfight, or barroom brawl,,lol,lol,lol
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Posted by midnight1954: well well, I am impressed , I thought I was the biggest bitch here but you guys take my crown, I kneel before the new bitch's,,,, catfight, or barroom brawl,,lol,lol,lol
hahahaahahahaha the problem is not the catfight, the problem is that somebody talks about religion here, and some people thinks its going to be the end of the world .
djhempey I called you pathetic cause you come here and all of sudden start calling ignorant to people that you doesnt know at all, i dont mind about oyur opinion, what bothers me is that this is a public place and we should act with respect to other people.
Chazzzzzzz I dont think we are getyting more advanced; maybe techologcly we are more advanced, but the peoples mentality is still the same as before.If the religions where the biggest problem in the world i would be happy, but in my opinion the biggest problem in the world is something called "egoism". We are too selfish to live in a good society.
I f**king love Richard Dawkins - He's one of my heros.
Anyone who's never heard of him - If you cbf reading one of his books - then do some serious youtubing.
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Posted by jessthehuman: People have rights as to what they believe. But when those beliefs shape the lives of others, a line must be drawn on tolerance of the beliefs of others.
What if I were to believe, that everyone should always wear black pants and anyone who doesn't should be thrown in jail ? What if I got into power, as a dictator of a country, with that belief ? Would you grant me my right to practise my belief ? and to jail people for not wearing black pants.
The problem is too many agnostics and atheists are tolerant of religious beliefs, under the guise that they are harmless. Well they are not harmless, they are doing great harm.
80% of the world is completely delusional, this is not harmless. If I have a friend and they start believing in imaginary people, seeing visions, hearing voices - etc - Then I try and get them mental health care - and yet billions of people world wide- are suffering these exact symptoms and everyone is doing nothing under some BS about religious tolerance.
"Religious tolerance" allows for denial of human rights: For females, for homosexuals, etc. It allows for wars in the name of God. It allows for laws based around religious ideas.
Religion is a serious problem and IS NOT to be tolerated. If you can see this - and are not a believer - then shame on your for not speaking up.
i had so many discussion about religion that im tired of it... but if i read your comments then im thinking its actually the "INTOLERANCE" responsible for all this your describing and not the religion. you sound like a radical religious preecher just in another context. do you really think there would be less war if there was no religion? we are an aggressive species.. war between humans has been long before religion appeared. we always will have/find a reason to make war and we certainly "dont" need religion to justify it. about female and homosexuals...is it really the religion or the "intolerance" ? like every atheist tolerate homosexuals ? cmon.. i get your point with the black pants. but i could also say poker players are dangerous for our society. what if they cant control their gambling, lose their family, house, money and end up homeless ? they start stealing, burglaries, kill innocent ppl for a few dollars just to have 2-3 buyins for the next session. there is alot religious people who live peacefully. buddhism for instance never ever commit a war in name of buddha, but according to you we may not tolerate them ? all in all really bad arguments why not to tolerate religion. but i agree that you have to fight those who try to shape your living. having you in a powerfull position wouldnt make much difference as having a religous radical freak in such a position.
edit: oh and sorry kinogames...i know this is offtopic
I remember arguing with you in another thread. You got NFI - why don't you read up - Richard Dawkins link is a good place to start - come back when you got some knowledge sunshine. Right now, your naive and feeding me lines straight out of high school. Wake up.
And why on earth do you think your poker players analogy discredits what I say - do you think I am pro-gambling ? Of course gambling/poker/etc destroys family/society. Of course it's a bad thing - it's fun, I do it - I take drugs too. What's your point ?
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Posted by oll1e999:
Posted by jessthehuman: On topic: If people are taking the piss out of religion in their avatars - good. If people are using images of "the lord" "jesus" "allah" etc in the wrong context - good
I think religion is a serious and I mean VERY serious plight upon this world - and it deserves no respect or tolerance.
A picture for you.....
I have a neighbor that he is like Jessthehuman, he bashed the religion everytime, just doesnt give a f**k about religion. But when his father died, here he was craying like a baby asking for god why he took his father life.
What's your point ? Emotional stress can do that to a man. And there's plenty of scumbag religious types waiting around to catch you when you fall and sell you all their crap.
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Posted by kinogomes:
Posted by oll1e999:
Posted by jessthehuman: On topic: If people are taking the piss out of religion in their avatars - good. If people are using images of "the lord" "jesus" "allah" etc in the wrong context - good
I think religion is a serious and I mean VERY serious plight upon this world - and it deserves no respect or tolerance.
A picture for you.....
I have a neighbor that he is like Jessthehuman, he bashed the religion everytime, just doesnt give a f**k about religion. But when his father died, here he was craying like a baby asking for god why he took his father life.
What's your point ? Emotional stress can do that to a man. And there's plenty of scumbag religious types waiting around to catch you when you fall and sell you all their crap. [/QUOTE]
Your wrong dude, what iam saying was just to proove you that in the end we need something to believe to make some sense to our lifes. Something like what Midnight already said in the forum.
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Posted by kinogomes: , i think it was better coming here saying stuff like "i dont have any religion and i dont mind, its something that doesnt bother me".
Four nobody is using this thread to compare racism with religion, i just gaved a point of view (most of people get nuts if its a racist pic, but they should think that some people gets nuts of its a pic making fun of some religion). We didnt born to have the same opinion, and we didnt born to make everybody happy.
Six Poker companies should be more restrict about peoples avatars, i found some avatars really ofensive and iam not mtalking just about the religious avatars. Talking about the avatars astuff i think Fulltilt havwe a big advantage comparing with pokerstars. Theyr avatars are funny, you can change your avatars state, this is all about what avatars should be.
A) - I am not saying that - because it DOES bother me. I used to be peaceful/agnostic - But I've since realised this is being a coward to the horrible things that are happening in the world and as such militant atheism is a far better approach - please don't think the word militant means anything more than assertive by the way - I am simply saying - it is an opinion that needs to be voiced and for too long as been keep silent on bitten tongues whilst we listen to the total BS coming from religions mouth - well no more - it is time to stand up to the lies, delusions, etc. We live in a world of incredible technology and science - made up stories with no tangible proof having no f**king place.
B) How f**king dare you compare racism and refusal to respect religious views - and don't dare say that you weren't.
C) Oh yes - more censorship - that's what we need bishop. Good call
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Posted by kinogomes:
Posted by kinogomes:
Posted by oll1e999:
Posted by jessthehuman: On topic: If people are taking the piss out of religion in their avatars - good. If people are using images of "the lord" "jesus" "allah" etc in the wrong context - good
I think religion is a serious and I mean VERY serious plight upon this world - and it deserves no respect or tolerance.
A picture for you.....
I have a neighbor that he is like Jessthehuman, he bashed the religion everytime, just doesnt give a f**k about religion. But when his father died, here he was craying like a baby asking for god why he took his father life.
What's your point ? Emotional stress can do that to a man. And there's plenty of scumbag religious types waiting around to catch you when you fall and sell you all their crap.
Your wrong dude, what iam saying was just to proove you that in the end we need something to believe to make some sense to our lifes. Something like what Midnight already said in the forum. [/QUOTE]
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jess you got a pigonhole thinking. if u dont know anything best thing u can do is to give other ppl names or call em naiv i really have to explain you my point ? well, i think the day you grow up and if thinik its worth my time talking to you again then i might explain you. but for now discusing with you is like talking to my dog.
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oh yeh. Sure - I been studying this sorta thing for years now, it's a massive topic for me, I've helped my girlfriend write uni papers on it. I used to have similar views to you and finally I came too and realised the damage of taking that kind of view. You are naive. I used to be too. But you are.
------------ As I said - read some Richard Dawkins or at least watch some of his videos. Then come back to me. But like I said, your views are shaped around this not being a central issue in your life - I on the other hand have taken a lot of time out to study it. I can see easily you haven't. Please do so and come back to me.
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I know many agnostic people and people that believes in somethnig but not in god. But no one have this kind of actitude like Jess haves, well maybe his lack of maturity can explain something. I say maybe cause i dont know him personally.
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Posted by kinogomes: I know many agnostic people and people that believes in somethnig but not in god. But no one have this kind of actitude like Jess haves, well maybe his lack of maturity can explain something. I say maybe cause i dont know him personally.
I used to be 'agnostic' like that kinogomes. Believe me, that was the immaturity. I keep saying it, to all of you, watch some Richard Dawkins.
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by kinogomes: I know many agnostic people and people that believes in somethnig but not in god. But no one have this kind of actitude like Jess haves, well maybe his lack of maturity can explain something. I say maybe cause i dont know him personally.
I used to be 'agnostic' like that kinogomes. Believe me, that was the immaturity. I keep saying it, to all of you, watch some Richard Dawkins.
I have readed many books about relligions, actually iam going to tell an inconfidence, when i was studying my dream was to be archeologist. I love all this kind of stuff about history, religions involved in the tribes, temples made to praise the gods. In my opinion its fascinating. This is not why i believe in god, i believe in god cause i borned in a traditional family and in a traditional comunity. I dont go everyweeks to the church, i go one time and another, and honestly when i go to the church i feel peace, sometimes is what i need, and i find it there. Peace for the spirit and for the mind. My religion is well known to make the biggest shits in all history, but iam no one to judje what they did, the only thing i can say is that i feel sorry. I dont follow asll the religion rulles, i follow some of them, the believe in god and in jesus Christ, and i think that cattolic church have still bad opinions about some things. I Accept that homosexuals can marry, i use condoms to have safier sex. The religion in my opinion is just a line where we can follow to guide us in somethings (mostly when we feel down because of a desease or when somebody dies), and the rest its just about us. We are the ones that make our own lifes and make the decisions, and we are free to decide. Few weeks ago i readed an interesting article saying that the people that follows more the religion usually lives more years, and have more peacefull lifes. Of course this is completely right because we see lots of people kiiling and dying because of it; but one thing i found interesting in the aspect that when i go to the church i feel more peace in my mind. Its not 1 hour per month that its going to take all my life.
You can be right in some aspects, but your intolerance in my opinion only make you loose and not win.
I think the truth about the relegion stays in the middle ( not everythnig its true, and not everything is a lie).
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Wow, this is going too far... THIS IS POKER SITE! I cant belive this We see people that are more extreme in theirs non believing in god then some radical believers who are ready to die for their god. True is always in middle.
------------ I think that Tony will have lot of job here... and djhempey's avatar wont be long here. Im not catholic but that offend lot of people on this forum... It would be same thing If I put Hitler or burned USA flag or something like that... There are sure people here who like Hitler and people who hate USA but you just cant do that because that may offend other people!
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Posted by kinogomes:
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by kinogomes: I know many agnostic people and people that believes in somethnig but not in god. But no one have this kind of actitude like Jess haves, well maybe his lack of maturity can explain something. I say maybe cause i dont know him personally.
I used to be 'agnostic' like that kinogomes. Believe me, that was the immaturity. I keep saying it, to all of you, watch some Richard Dawkins.
I have readed many books about relligions, actually iam going to tell an inconfidence, when i was studying my dream was to be archeologist. I love all this kind of stuff about history, religions involved in the tribes, temples made to praise the gods. In my opinion its fascinating. This is not why i believe in god, i believe in god cause i borned in a traditional family and in a traditional comunity. I dont go everyweeks to the church, i go one time and another, and honestly when i go to the church i feel peace, sometimes is what i need, and i find it there. Peace for the spirit and for the mind. My religion is well known to make the biggest shits in all history, but iam no one to judje what they did, the only thing i can say is that i feel sorry. I dont follow asll the religion rulles, i follow some of them, the believe in god and in jesus Christ, and i think that cattolic church have still bad opinions about some things. I Accept that homosexuals can marry, i use condoms to have safier sex. The religion in my opinion is just a line where we can follow to guide us in somethings (mostly when we feel down because of a desease or when somebody dies), and the rest its just about us. We are the ones that make our own lifes and make the decisions, and we are free to decide. Few weeks ago i readed an interesting article saying that the people that follows more the religion usually lives more years, and have more peacefull lifes. Of course this is completely right because we see lots of people kiiling and dying because of it; but one thing i found interesting in the aspect that when i go to the church i feel more peace in my mind. Its not 1 hour per month that its going to take all my life.
You can be right in some aspects, but your intolerance in my opinion only make you loose and not win.
I think the truth about the relegion stays in the middle ( not everythnig its true, and not everything is a lie).
. This thread was to debate the use of the religious pics in the avatars, and to know if people find trhem offensive in the same way i did with some of them.
