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Posted by zeroster: Ok two things.
1. BeMyATMplz: yeah pretty shitty thing to do when you know retribution is running a BAP, it's not just him you'll be screwing over it's other members as well myself included but it's your prerogative to join those games if you wish.
2. retribution: Has it not occurred to you that going off on one on the forum is a sure fire way to get him to follow you around even further. Seriously man think about it, if he did it to wind you up then you've just given him the satisfaction of knowing he succeeded.
BeMyATMplzz: "interfere" when I join a +EV game when I'm not even investor in the BAP BeMyATMplzz: so smart Retribution1979: yeah, so instead you @#$! over the forumers... BeMyATMplzz: I %%$# them over by joining a game that is pofitable BeMyATMplzz: xDDD BeMyATMplzz: I'd &!$% them over if I made spite calls to kill your equity Retribution1979: against someone whos running a BAP for them...like, are you stupid? BeMyATMplzz: Oh wow I lower your expected ROI by 0.5%/game soooo sick Retribution1979: wow...you realize how many people your going to piss off when I post thism right? BeMyATMplzz: The people with a brain will say you're retarded Retribution1979: okay Retribution1979: well, we'll see BeMyATMplzz: If you need to attention whore in a no deposit poker forum then sick life man Retribution1979: that's not the point Retribution1979: you're &$#$ing with peoples money BeMyATMplzz: So I &%&# with so many people daily that I play against that are staked
I think it's pretty damn clear how he feels about fucking you all over. Bemy, you're a fucking lowlife idiot scumbag. Shut your bitch mouth you punk faggot.
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Posted by retribution:
Posted by zeroster: Ok two things.
1. BeMyATMplz: yeah pretty shitty thing to do when you know retribution is running a BAP, it's not just him you'll be screwing over it's other members as well myself included but it's your prerogative to join those games if you wish.
2. retribution: Has it not occurred to you that going off on one on the forum is a sure fire way to get him to follow you around even further. Seriously man think about it, if he did it to wind you up then you've just given him the satisfaction of knowing he succeeded.
BeMyATMplzz: "interfere" when I join a +EV game when I'm not even investor in the BAP BeMyATMplzz: so smart Retribution1979: yeah, so instead you @#$! over the forumers... BeMyATMplzz: I %%$# them over by joining a game that is pofitable BeMyATMplzz: xDDD BeMyATMplzz: I'd &!$% them over if I made spite calls to kill your equity Retribution1979: against someone whos running a BAP for them...like, are you stupid? BeMyATMplzz: Oh wow I lower your expected ROI by 0.5%/game soooo sick Retribution1979: wow...you realize how many people your going to piss off when I post thism right? BeMyATMplzz: The people with a brain will say you're retarded Retribution1979: okay Retribution1979: well, we'll see BeMyATMplzz: If you need to attention whore in a no deposit poker forum then sick life man Retribution1979: that's not the point Retribution1979: you're &$#$ing with peoples money BeMyATMplzz: So I &%&# with so many people daily that I play against that are staked
I think it's pretty damn clear how he feels about fucking you all over. Bemy, you're a fucking lowlife idiot scumbag. Shut your bitch mouth you punk faggot.
Actually as an investor, all be it a minor one, point 2 is more pertinent at the moment.
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Posted by retribution: Oh yeah, says the guy who was 22/20, calling down with garbage like K3, Q5 and freaking 86o.
You want to call me a nit? I'm 15/10 idiot, I'd rather be called a nit, than play like a fucking agro donk moron like you. Now shut your yap.
Yeah 15/10 is super nitty,I'm sorry.. even the average 18 mans turbo reg on stars is like 17/15 (at least those not grinding on just 2% ROI) and at these super turbos you have to be even looser,especially because you play shorthanded more than in a 2 table SNG. Overall my style in 18 mans turbos is 19/17. And you still have to show me making a bad call with garbage
Posted by zeroster: 1. BeMyATMplz: yeah pretty shitty thing to do when you know retribution is running a BAP, it's not just him you'll be screwing over it's other members as well myself included but it's your prerogative to join those games if you wish.
If I was to avoid games where someone is staked I'd pretty much be not able to join any games at all,in my regular games at least 1/3 of all regs are staked and/or coached,if I was to avoid all of them then I'd probably play 2 instead of ~20 tables.. I join whats +EV no matter who's in.
------------ If you wanna judge on a 31 games sample then lmfao,then that means you have even less of an idea of poker than I thought. Search my pokerstars stats since thats the only site I have a meaningful sample on,thanks
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Posted by retribution: Okay, easy enough. I'm not playing 1 more game until idiot stick fucks off. If that means we all have to wait a month, so be it. Blame the retard.
Then you probably have to close this early since I'm most likely playing these regulary from now on or you have to table select games I'm not in at least.
The competition is just so lolbad that it's extremely profitable playing these considering these are super turbos (and you're a great example because people just shove & call way too tight in these,even the regs).
And besides,I have yet to see the spite calls dumbfuck
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by retribution: Oh yeah, says the guy who was 22/20, calling down with garbage like K3, Q5 and freaking 86o.
You want to call me a nit? I'm 15/10 idiot, I'd rather be called a nit, than play like a f**king agro donk moron like you. Now shut your yap.
Yeah 15/10 is super nitty,I'm sorry.. even the average 18 mans turbo reg on stars is like 17/15 (at least those not grinding on just 2% ROI) and at these super turbos you have to be even looser,especially because you play shorthanded more than in a 2 table SNG. Overall my style in 18 mans turbos is 19/17. And you still have to show me making a bad call with garbage
Posted by zeroster: 1. BeMyATMplz: yeah pretty shitty thing to do when you know retribution is running a BAP, it's not just him you'll be screwing over it's other members as well myself included but it's your prerogative to join those games if you wish.
If I was to avoid games where someone is staked I'd pretty much be not able to join any games at all,in my regular games at least 1/3 of all regs are staked and/or coached,if I was to avoid all of them then I'd probably play 2 instead of ~20 tables.. I join whats +EV no matter who's in.
------------ If you wanna judge on a 31 games sample then lmfao,then that means you have even less of an idea of poker than I thought. Search my pokerstars stats since thats the only site I have a meaningful sample on,thanks
You basically said, in f**king chat, that you don't care about the investors, will make spite calls to f**k me over, and are trying to "prove a point".
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Then you probably have to close this early since I'm most likely playing these regulary from now on or you have to table select games I'm not in at least.
And you feel the need to be a f**king tithead why? Why be such an arrogant douche? Why not just agree that what you did/are doing is petty, and avoid games I'm in. No, instead you have to be a little faggot and come invade a game I'm grinding out for fellow forumers to "prove a point". Serious, your d**k must be like 2" or you're too fat to get laid. Get a life kid.
Oh, it's also REALLY funny how the second I stopped playing, so did you. What, go broke already, or decided to stop bleeding money since I wasn't around to harass any more?
Edited by retribution (20 December 2012 @ 03:20 GMT)
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Yeah I'm totally honest I dont give a f**k how this BAP ends,I'm not invested in it nor do I have anything to do with it at all. Thats also a reason why it'd be completely retarded if I was spiting you,because it affects me in no way if I was f**king you over,I dont benefit from it. What you dont realize tho is that if I made spite calls I'd kill both yours but most importantly my own equity and would just throw away money by doing that,pretty pointless if you ask me (and besides,we never had a situation where the ICM factor was big enough to make it worth it anyways)
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Posted by BeMyATMplz: Yeah I'm totally honest I dont give a f**k how this BAP ends,I'm not invested in it nor do I have anything to do with it at all. Thats also a reason why it'd be completely retarded if I was spiting you,because it affects me in no way if I was f**king you over,I dont benefit from it. What you dont realize tho is that if I made spite calls I'd kill both yours but most importantly my own equity and would just throw away money by doing that,pretty pointless if you ask me (and besides,we never had a situation where the ICM factor was big enough to make it worth it anyways)
Then you have no idea of ICM, because that A3 call you made when 4-handed was retarded.
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Posted by retribution: And you feel the need to be a f**king tithead why? Why be such an arrogant douche? Why not just agree that what you did/are doing is petty, and avoid games I'm in. No, instead you have to be a little faggot and come invade a game I'm grinding out for fellow forumers to "prove a point". Serious, your d**k must be like 2" or you're too fat to get laid. Get a life kid.
Oh, it's also REALLY funny how the second I stopped playing, so did you. What, go broke already, or decided to stop bleeding money since I wasn't around to harass any more?
What "point" am I proving? I'm playing these since they're the most profitable games with my very low FTP BR that I can play with a low risk of going broke while having a decent $/game rate. And I can assure you both the claims of my d**k and me being fat are wrong,I have an established real life and thats also the reason why I dont give a f**k what any player would think of me,I play poker to make money and for no other reason,so why would I purposely try to f**k you over.
And if you were paying more attention you wouldve realized I was just regging a few games to try them and then all I did was re-playing the step 1 tickets I've won for 3rd-5th place finishes and that was all I did after I regged like 4 or 5 games (I even regged more at the beginning but started to unreg after a bit)
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by retribution: And you feel the need to be a f**king tithead why? Why be such an arrogant douche? Why not just agree that what you did/are doing is petty, and avoid games I'm in. No, instead you have to be a little faggot and come invade a game I'm grinding out for fellow forumers to "prove a point". Serious, your d**k must be like 2" or you're too fat to get laid. Get a life kid.
Oh, it's also REALLY funny how the second I stopped playing, so did you. What, go broke already, or decided to stop bleeding money since I wasn't around to harass any more?
What "point" am I proving? I'm playing these since they're the most profitable games with my very low FTP BR that I can play with a low risk of going broke while having a decent $/game rate. And I can assure you both the claims of my d**k and me being fat are wrong,I have an established real life and thats also the reason why I dont give a f**k what any player would think of me,I play poker to make money and for no other reason,so why would I purposely try to f**k you over.
And if you were paying more attention you wouldve realized I was just regging a few games to try them and then all I did was re-playing the step 1 tickets I've won for 3rd-5th place finishes and that was all I did after I regged like 4 or 5 games (I even regged more at the beginning but started to unreg after a bit)
While it's true I don't know the video in which you're referring, that post really resonates you're worldly wisdom when it comes to poker. Yes, 22 IS an ev hand HU. What a clown.
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When I dont get the desired coaching content I consider myself as free to leave,if I dont get provided with content as good as possible to provide for the coach. and also,like I said,I wouldnt give a f**k if everyone in the poker world would hate me,poker is there for me to make money and that's pretty much it No videos were provided (no idea where you got that information from) and you can't consider the coaching as "good coaching" because it simply wasnt. I was a -5% ROI player @ $15 SNGs after the coaching,because like I said the provided content was just pretty bad IMO.
But obviously that all has anything to do with this thread,of course
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Posted by BeMyATMplz: When I dont get the desired coaching content I consider myself as free to leave,if I dont get provided with content as good as possible to provide for the coach. and also,like I said,I wouldnt give a f**k if everyone in the poker world would hate me,poker is there for me to make money and that's pretty much it
Yes, based on knowledge you willingly and admittedly stole from people while in a (at least morally, if not legally) binding contract.
Oh, here's a fun thread, where you post a hand you played like a moron, and you're coach even tells you so. You go on to try and argue he's wrong, only to be told by the other forumers he's right. I'm not sure if it's the same coach/staker, but if that's your attitude towards coaching, you definitely weren't justified in rolling on your agreement. Just admit it. You're a useless tit. Be gone from the forums, don't post here again, and stay the f**k out of the games I'm playing for this BAP.
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Posted by retribution: Yes, 22 IS an ev hand HU.
I agree with you there and I was questioning it since hero (my coach) folded ingame (dont even question his skills though until you can provide 16% ROI @ $15 SNGs) You have yet to read properly And besides that,I don't care if I'm considered a good player or a small winner who's just putting in good volume to make his bucks,only fact that is important for me is I'm beating the game at a reasonable hourly $-rate and thats the only thing that is important for me
------------ Sweet of you that I seem to be important enough to be stalked though
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by retribution: Yes, 22 IS an ev hand HU.
I agree with you there and I was questioning it since hero (my coach) folded ingame (dont even question his skills though until you can provide 16% ROI @ $15 SNGs) You have yet to read properly And besides that,I don't care if I'm considered a good player or a small winner who's just putting in good volume to make his bucks,only fact that is important for me is I'm beating the game at a reasonable hourly $-rate and thats the only thing that is important for me
------------ Sweet of you that I seem to be important enough to be stalked though
I was being facetious you moron. I'd hardly call it stalking, more like illustrating what an idiotic prick you are, who really has shown he doesn't know as much about poker as he claims to.
Oh, here's a fun thread, where you post a hand you played like a moron, and you're coach even tells you so. You go on to try and argue he's wrong, only to be told by the other forumers he's right. I'm not sure if it's the same coach/staker, but if that's your attitude towards coaching, you definitely weren't justified in rolling on your agreement. Just admit it. You're a useless tit. Be gone from the forums, don't post here again, and stay the f**k out of the games I'm playing for this BAP.
Uhm this is the coaching-video-page tournamentpokeredge,people are there solely to learn,and this was when I was playing poker for just 4 or 5 months,people improve over time,but you've seemingly always been a nit and always will be
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Posted by retribution: who really has shown he doesn't know as much about poker as he claims to.
Like I said I dont care how much I know about this game as long as I beat it and make enough money from it,I dont think you can claim to earn a decent amount from it...I dont really care about what you say at all because your opinion about me is no important one at all (I could poop on it tbh),if you wanna call me a low life or whatever then so it be,I dont care at all,and if you say "I'm too fat to get laid",I can assure you I had good sex today with my girlfriend (or yesterday since it's 4:50am here) and unlike you I dont have the need to start a flame war and stalk someone via google afterwards just to feel better. I wonder what an observer would think who has less of a life.
It's late,flame on later,cya
Edited by BeMyATMplz (20 December 2012 @ 03:52 GMT)
Oh, here's a fun thread, where you post a hand you played like a moron, and you're coach even tells you so. You go on to try and argue he's wrong, only to be told by the other forumers he's right. I'm not sure if it's the same coach/staker, but if that's your attitude towards coaching, you definitely weren't justified in rolling on your agreement. Just admit it. You're a useless tit. Be gone from the forums, don't post here again, and stay the f**k out of the games I'm playing for this BAP.
Uhm this is the coaching-video-page tournamentpokeredge,people are there solely to learn,and this was when I was playing poker for just 4 or 5 months,people improve over time,but you've seemingly always been a nit and always will be
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Posted by retribution: who really has shown he doesn't know as much about poker as he claims to.
Like I said I dont care how much I know about this game as long as I beat it and make enough money from it,I dont think you can claim to earn a decent amount from it...I dont really care about what you say at all because your opinion about me is no important one at all (I could poop on it tbh),if you wanna call me a low life or whatever then so it be,I dont care at all,and if you say "I'm too fat to get laid",I can assure you I had good sex today with my girlfriend (or yesterday since it's 4:50am here) and unlike you I dont have the need to start a flame war and stalk someone via google afterwards just to feel better. I wonder what an observer would think who has less of a life.
It's late,flame on later,cya
Read further down in the thread, it wasn't even the first time you rolled a stake either:
a big lmao @ you for coming up with the reason that I already hwve DNS,while you were the one to tell me to keep shut about my past roll of a few years ago.
[12.08.2011 12:03:05] Ivan - ILS007: considering you're doing nothing wrong and what u did from was 3 years ago, im not sure if paying back that $250 in that way is worth it
You wanted me to be dishonest,so first off,lol @ your reason for trying to get me perma because I have DNS.
LOL wow, you really are a lowlife. Go away now, and have "sex" with your blow up girlfriend buddy.
Am I the only one that thinks he spouts off terms like +EV and ICM, when he doesn't actually understand what they mean ?
As for joining the games, its pretty low given people have given money ( and he knows it too ) to stake Retrbution, and he's obviously got a cob on about the staking deal so he's gone in to screw them up on purpose.
I don't understand why are you not allowing him to play same games, as you say he plays like retard? I would invite him every time.
Anyways you both seem pretty retarded to me arguing like little kids. Blaming others for BAP losses is pretty weak as well. You are calling your own shots so i can't see how it is someone elses fault. Not like guy is cheating he s playing his own game.
This only goes to show that my original opinon of you was spot on and this type of situation was just a matter of time.
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Hi retribution, I understand you may be a decent poker player, and this is a great idea, but you treat some brm members like crap, regardless of them begging or asking for stakes dosent give you the right or power to unleash all your hate on them!, you should go see a shrink . you dont deserve any presents from santa this year or next, wouldent give ya a red cent
NOBODY GIVE THE GUY NOTHING NO MORE HE IS SCAMARTIST
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Posted by saynothing: Hi retribution, I understand you may be a decent poker player, and this is a great idea, but you treat some brm members like crap, regardless of them begging or asking for stakes dosent give you the right or power to unleash all your hate on them!, you should go see a shrink . you dont deserve any presents from santa this year or next, wouldent give ya a red cent
NOBODY GIVE THE GUY NOTHING NO MORE HE IS SCAMARTIST
Like...did you even bother reading everything? I don't think so. How am I scam artist? I never ONCE said I wasn't going to finish, nor did I ever once imply, state, infer or otherwise hint that I was going to keep any money. I have every intention of finishing this, and playing to my best ability, as has always been the plan.
However, I refuse to play while bemy insists on being a douchebag, and I believe, as do my investors, that I have EVERY right to be pissed off by his deliberate and obvious attempt to sabatoge the BAP. I think his behavior is anti-social, ignorant and detrimental to the interests of those involved in this.
If you don't like me, I frankly don't care, but calling me a scammer is just uncalled for.
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@ Retribution
To be honest I have to say Bemyatm is free (like everyone else except for the stakers) to join those steps sng: the purposes are debatable .
It seems pretty obvious and clear bemyatm is joining FT steps sngs on purpose, it also clearly shows what kind of person you/we are dealing: I dont' think he deserve a single second of attention.
imho you should just:
- close the chat while playing and focus on your A-game
- consider your opponents (bemyatm included) as a set of numbers on your HUD
- cool you down before starting playing again
And please avoid these kiddish quarelling here; an old wiseman I know use to say: "don't quarrel with a stupid: he downgrade you to his level and then beat you on experience". Anyway don't think Bemyatm is a stupid but I think he is acting in a stupid way.
Remember all this BAP thing started to enjoy it together (at least imo): just keep enjoing it.
PS: instead of a live streming session (with the delay problems) why don't you publish a recorded one?
peace for all
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Posted by fcumred: Am I the only one that thinks he spouts off terms like +EV and ICM, when he doesn't actually understand what they mean ?
As for joining the games, its pretty low given people have given money ( and he knows it too ) to stake Retrbution, and he's obviously got a cob on about the staking deal so he's gone in to screw them up on purpose.
It is pretty low being honest...
agree on all the line
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