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  11-Aug-10, 08:11   #1
Is online poker rigged? -1 
Supererou 

Joined: May '10
Location: Romania
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I don't know what you think about this.Personally I think that one particular room is rigged, I don't say all of them are.Here is what one guy that worked at the developing of the poker soft says:

"Bob Smith

Their are many folk out there arguing about if online poker is rigged or not…I wold like to help put this to rest by stating that it is rigged in many different ways. i helped write some of the software for tiltware LLC…while working on the fulltilt site some of the other programmers and i were asked to install programming into the software that would recognize certain players and provide them with unbeatable hands. we were also asked to develope software that would provide what they called the”maximum oppurtunity to bet” which meant that the deals are rigged to deal out alot of good starting hands to alot of players so that the most betting possible would take place on every deal. The deal would then provide a monster flop in which atleast two players would be all in before the river.(ever wonder why nobody ever misses the flop online…because then no one would bet and that is not what fulltilt wants) This keeps the tourneys fast paced and exciting which players love. Fulltilt loves this too, the faster you lose the faster they can make more money off you by having enter another tourney.
There is also another way fulltilt cheats you out of cash with their own personal players. These players are called house players and are fulltime employees of the Fulltilt compnay. If you check some names and their online wins vs. loss records you will often find them with records that are simply unreal. I have seen some of these folks who win over 50 straight sessions without a loss…how can this be possible unless they are working on the inside. They come and go and change their names often but they play in the site with the full adavantage of being able to see all the cards in play and in the deck.
Another programming trick we wrote into the software at fulltilt is the levels trick…this trick takes place when a tournament has been running after the first break. The computer recognizes the different size of each players chip stack and begins to deal out hands in which a small stack will shove all in and a large stack will have a better hand to call with. Have you ever wondered why you get pocekt QQs with 1500 chips and the guy next to you gets pockets KKs and he has 10,000 chips? The answer is simple the site is programmed to get you to play as much as possible. So we programmed the site to eliminate the small stack as quickly as possible so that they can go enter another tourney asap. The site is even prgrammed to adjust the flop for big stacks so that even if the big stack calls your hand with nothing he will end up beating your good made hand by the river. Often times the site will deal you back to back hands with the same cards but maybe different colors or suits..this “glitch” is a sign that the computer is adjusting the shuffle to start elimnting small stacks and allow the tourney to finish quicker.
The sooner a tournament is done the faster fulltilt can have you back at another table spending more money…it is to this sites best interested to eliminate you from tables as fast as possbile. There is no one to regulate how the company manipulates the software to thier own advantage. There is no one to monitor how the company pays out its players and employees. Simply put, giving some offshore account your hard earned cash is simply insane. Thinking that these people arent cheating you out of your money is crazy, the site has many layers of hidden programming all set up to take full adavantage of all types of players from novice to expert.
the main reason i wrote this blog is to expose the fraud that takes place at online gaming site known as Fulltilt poker i was fired three months ago from the company that helped write the software..yes i am bitter and mad but i do fell everyone so know how bad fulltilt is and that is a site built by THIEVES!! "

I have to say how I lost all my bnakroll at this site.First week I managed to make a good profit at cash tables.Then the nightmare comes.Bad beat after bad beat I lost all the profit I made in a week in 2 days.I didn't change my style of play.And when I say bad beats I mean it.I never saw such bad beats on other sites, at that frequency.In just one day I played like 3 horus at 4 tables hands and made a royal flush,saw 4 quads(really 4 quads one was at omaha but that still counts),I swear I had 3 times AA and lost 2 times( one time I lost agains K3 all in preflop lol).
Two weeks playing there and I saw all the siht happen, s**t that only rarely happen to me on other sites.I don't know how many times I had KK and raised but someone goes all in and guess what he has Aces.
So there I was on tilt when I had an idea.WTF , let's see how far this goes, and I've put all my bankroll that was left (around 24 dolars) in a heads up match.I ran over this idiot who raises all the time whith absolutely nothing and guess what he won the heads-up last hand I had top pair on the flop and he had a str8 draw only 4 outs he had to make the str8(the Q's) and one Q came on the turn he busted me.
I'm not here to complain about this room Aww crap! .Ok maybe I am but I have an advice for you: DON"T CHOOSE THIS ROOM!

So, anybody here feels the same about online poker?

     
  11-Aug-10, 08:28   #2
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dozn01 

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you win some you lose some .......................
variance Big Smile

     
  11-Aug-10, 08:37   #3
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wias 
Joined: Jul '10
Location: Hungary
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yesterday i have AA all-in the opponent has KK the flop was TK862, after ten minutes i have AA i raise just one come with me the flop was TK8 im all-in he too turn J river J. He has JJ Aww crap! .
I go tilt a little bit so next table i go all-in with 66 against an AA and i got a 6 Blink

so sometimes u win sometimes u loose.

     
  11-Aug-10, 08:37   #4
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mazas 
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Lithuania
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u cant win all the games there u play so its nothing strange here
but still the pokers sites was really rigged becouse they deals alot off strange combines off cards and also too many donks wining aloud there all in with 6-3 or over low cards beat strong aj aq ak

good luck all Tongue

     
  11-Aug-10, 09:14   #5
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
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No online poker isnot rigged when it comes to top15/20 networks.
I wud not put my hands in the fire speaking about top20+ networks.


     
  11-Aug-10, 09:28   #6
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smaffie 

Joined: Sep '09
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There all rigged....created to take all my money(or maybe i'm just not that good) Cool

     
  11-Aug-10, 09:32   #7
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dianakyra 
Joined: Apr '09
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We need people like you

     
  11-Aug-10, 09:35   #8
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Pjot 
Joined: May '08
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I do not think that onlinepoker is rigged, simply because there would so little to gain and so much to lose out of it.

BUT there are of course, and will probably always be, sites where there is cheating going on, but that is not really what we consider a rigg.

My two cents.

     
  11-Aug-10, 11:16   #9
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NanoGrinder 
Joined: Jan '10
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It would not make much sense to design a rigged software if you are aiming to be one of the leading companies in the poker industry. Poker sites make money when players play rake.

     
  11-Aug-10, 11:40   #10
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parrix 

Joined: Aug '09
Location: Spain
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Finally, I believe that this is not the first time that question a poker room,

and also not the first time the question is FullTiltPoker room,

but equally I think it is the only one that we should criticize,

because at this point All rooms are open to criticism but one or two that I will not name,

also I wish you luck.


     
  11-Aug-10, 11:42   #11
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
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LMAO !

Excellent source "Bob SMith"

     
  11-Aug-10, 11:45   #12
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Kristan 

Joined: Feb '10
Location: Finland
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LMAO.

Doyle lost 10 years atraight and it was live poker - so is live rigged also Confused

But he has also won 10 wsop brancelets in his lifetime.

Ever heard of variance? Blink
+ofc you have to be a good player to make money in a long run, othervise variance does not make any difference lol.

     
  11-Aug-10, 12:50   #13
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
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Posts: 4873
Posted by dozn01:
you win some you lose some .......................
variance Big Smile

missy variance is a bitch Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  11-Aug-10, 13:29   #14
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Supererou 

Joined: May '10
Location: Romania
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 279
Posted by jessthehuman:
LMAO !

Excellent source "Bob SMith"

Here's where I found this:
http://fulltiltpokerrigged.blogspot.com/2009/08/full-ti...

I would like to speak with anyone that made profit in a long time on full tilt.
Someone said that the room doesn't need to do this cos they make money from the rake.Of course they need to to rig it to make MORE money, cos they are greedyIf you make a rigged soft that would eliminate players faster from tourneys then there will b more tourneys to take rake from so MORE MONEY for the room. GREED is the answer.
How many live poker players do you see online??If you're good in real life then you have to be good also online,so why don't they all play online?Cos some of them know it's rigged but they still promote it.
Yeah Yeah it's called variance, you're so smart how could I forget about the variance??
That's gonna b it.

     
  11-Aug-10, 14:21   #15
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Myeng 
Joined: Dec '09
Location: Belgium
Age: 28 (M)
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Yea it has to be rigged, first I was a non-believer, but now there's some proof it is rigged:

Edited by sirthomas (12 August 2010 @ 07:11 GMT)


     
  11-Aug-10, 14:49   #16
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HsH80 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Germany
Age: 39 (M)
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Posted by Myeng:
Yea it has to be rigged, first I was a non-believer, but now there's some proof it is rigged:



LOL
this made my day....i hate this blonde guy who is always wearing a suit

Edited by sirthomas (12 August 2010 @ 07:13 GMT)


     
  11-Aug-10, 15:05   #17
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 42 (F)
Posts: 13999
Posted by doomdy:
No online poker isnot rigged when it comes to top15/20 networks.
I wud not put my hands in the fire speaking about top20+ networks.



said the one that believed the most that idiot.what was his name again doomdy? flangel maybe?
lol lol lol

     
  11-Aug-10, 15:06   #18
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
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Posts: 3851
Posted by Myeng:
Yea it has to be rigged, first I was a non-believer, but now there's some proof it is rigged:




n1 Thumbs Up Worship Worship

BTW: fulltilt is one of the most successful pokerrooms and make millions Dollar Dollar everyday; I don't think could be a good idea to use rigged software to make momey faster runnig the risk to be caught and lose all their players. it's a -EV idea in my opinion

Edited by sirthomas (12 August 2010 @ 07:12 GMT)


     
  11-Aug-10, 15:38   #19
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arsenej1 

Joined: Mar '09
Location: Canada
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 3198
Posted by Myeng:
Yea it has to be rigged, first I was a non-believer, but now there's some proof it is rigged:


thats brilliant lol....guess there right online poker is rigged...wonder what happend to the guy with the card in his sleeve and the dealer?

Edited by sirthomas (12 August 2010 @ 07:12 GMT)


     
  11-Aug-10, 15:51   #20
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spootbv 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 183
i personally think online poker is a bit strange .... i prefer live ... there is not cheating like online .... i have online it hapen so many times .. wt do you think about this flop comes 9 j 8 i have 99 bha fella bets 10$ at a 0.25 - 0.50 table i have 40 $ i think hmmm.. den call he straight calls he shows me Q A no pisibiliti for a flush or someting ...turn comes 10 river k river the luck 10 Sad(( next hand i rebuy again .... 30 i have AA flop comes A 76 im allin the rest 18$ the same player no posible flush he shows me 67 turn comes 7 ... river 7 :O Sad((( wtf..... i wass so pised off

     
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